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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by CiviChik97

AND SPOOD--i didnt read ur whole post...but i read up till the part where u mentioned that she is *WHITE*...in case u forgot, there was also an african american *woman* who was captured who ALSO got a lot of media attention. this has NOTHING to do with her race.
Yes, I am aware that there was a black woman who was also captured. As I recall, she was shot once or twice someplace very painful...like her ankles or knees or feet...I can't remember for sure though. But, you more or less made my point. The black woman in this situation, while I'm sure got some attention, got less that Jessica Lynch did. Same as the other male members of the unit. While America is not as racist as it used to be, I believe that Jessica's age and white-ness were a factor in receiving the attention that she did. Hell, they might not even be doing it on purpose, but there is definitely an inequality in people's perceptions of black and white people, true or not. They're socially ingrained. It's unfortunate, but that's how it is.

Her being raped...for one, I'm kind of amused that there's any surprise that she was. If you look at the way it's worded in some of the articles, the attitude is like, "Whoa! You were raped too? Oh my!" Honestly, I was surprised when I first heard the story that (as far as anyone knew at the time) she wasn't raped. I'm not gonna say women shouldn't be in the military, because I think they should. However, and yes this is contradictory, this is exactly why they shouldn't be.
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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by WiLL
its just something to be expected when serving in the armed forces. and her getting that purple metal of honor? :ugh:
Ok first off she did not get the congressional medal of honor however she did get a purple heart and a bronze star and she got discharged from the National guard with a 90% dissability check. The black girl that was with her is getting a 30% disability discharge with most of the same wounds. Second off all you bleeding hearts need to realize that she was a soldier just like my wife who is in Iraq right now, and luckily I didn't go because I get out in under 60 days and my unit just left. She is nothing spectacular and I really feel that she has given all women in the military a bad name by riding this thing like she has. Everytime a male soldier is captured he gets a 10 min bleep on CNN and then another 10 min bleep when he is rescued. If the hooker wouldn't have ran her Humvee into a jacknifed semi and fired some rounds maybe I wouldn't feel this way. She had the best hospital care she could have got in Iraq and the Iraqi physician says that there where no signs that she was raped. This is taken from the Army times so flame away if you want. In my opinion she is just a media toy and nothing more. She got unfair attention cause we all know that the war in Iraq is total and complete bullshit.
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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by qtiger
A couple psych classes will do that.




Plus it helps that every time there's a thread about women you run in with guns blazing ready to bitch out every man posting.
yea, because im a bitch. :jerkit: get off YOUR high horse man. im a woman and im damn proud of it. that is all. i dont bitch out every guy who says something. i simply state my opinion...and like myself and a few MALE members of HAN have said, i am simply *misunderstood*. you dont get me. and therefore you think that im all about woman power and fuck the men...when in reality, that isnt me, in the least bit. i just have a hard time understanding and communicating with people who draw up some out there conclusion of me because they dont agree with me.
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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by CiviChik97
yea, because im a bitch. :jerkit: get off YOUR high horse man. im a woman and im damn proud of it. that is all. i dont bitch out every guy who says something. i simply state my opinion...and like myself and a few MALE members of HAN have said, i am simply *misunderstood*. you dont get me. and therefore you think that im all about woman power and fuck the men...when in reality, that isnt me, in the least bit. i just have a hard time understanding and communicating with people who draw up some out there conclusion of me because they dont agree with me.
You are totally misinterpreting everything I've said according to your worldview. Let's run things down a little slower.


1: Jessica Lynch got publicity because she was a young white female.

2: The men in her unit who were captured got a hair of publicity because they were with her, as a side note to reports on her.

3: The men in her unit who died didn't get a single line.


I said nothing about you hating men or thinking women were in charge of the world. What I did say is that the reason you care about Jessica Lynch is because she has tits and a vagina and if her name was James Lynch and had a penis you never would have heard of him because he wouldn't have been on the news in the first place.

Then I said the reason you're in here defending her is because you empathize with her. Notice - again no accusations of feminazi manhating tendencies.
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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 11:55 AM
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Originally posted by supermac88
...she got discharged from the National guard with a 90% dissability check. The black girl that was with her is getting a 30% disability discharge with most of the same wounds.
Thank you, that's exactly what I was trying to get at. She wasn't only given preferential treatment by the media, but by the military itself.

Also, I read WiLL's post with transcript of her interview, and it does make me really sad that on my birthday, while I was happy and spending time with my girlfriend, she was in some dank prison being anally raped by some stank-ass Iraqi fuckheads.
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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 11:55 AM
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Originally posted by CiviChik97
yea, because im a bitch. :jerkit: get off YOUR high horse man. im a woman and im damn proud of it. that is all. i dont bitch out every guy who says something. i simply state my opinion...and like myself and a few MALE members of HAN have said, i am simply *misunderstood*. you dont get me. and therefore you think that im all about woman power and fuck the men...when in reality, that isnt me, in the least bit. i just have a hard time understanding and communicating with people who draw up some out there conclusion of me because they dont agree with me.

then why is it that you, a woman, are the only one having a hard time seeing the fact that she's getting the attention because she's white and a female? :dunno:
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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 12:55 PM
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bleh, she'll never listen
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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 04:16 PM
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the whole story was faked. jessica lynch was in a car accident in iraq, and the irqis took her to the hospital. she wasn't mistreated, and she doesn't even have any bullet or stab wounds. does anyone have that BBC article?
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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by EBCiviC
this i did not know..

and yet you opened your mouth anyway :thinking:
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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 04:34 PM
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what kinda ladies u getting CW? id hit it fo sho
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