well, look into any science that relates to personallities. None of them are 100% right.

and besides, you can pick appart everything to the point where nothing's right. Its not that difficult.

well, first of all, aries in the sun sign still kicks off Sheep/Goat mating seasons.

secondly, there's also 3 planets we've discovered since then.

third, one of the "planets" is indeed our own sun.

and fourth, there's a rather infinite amount of constilliations. Again, you pick something apart enough, nothing will make sense.

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So what is affecting us, exactly? Because I bet if you take your birthdate and do a little research into exactly what constellation the sun was in when you were born, it's not what you'll find in your newspaper.

you ask about constilation positions vs. the changing of the universe....

well, I'm a sagittarius, born november 27th. My sister is, too, born nov. 25th. My girlfriend is as well, born november 28th. Hell, I've known several around that general date (knew a guy I shared bdays with, have a coworker born on the 26th of november, etc), and while we're all not the same, we still have similar traits. Also, there's much more to astrology than just the sun sign. One example is the Moon sign, and its say on things, particularly the subconscous (and that can change depending on location of the planet, time of the day, down to the minute).

but why talk about a bunch of shit none of you know about. You read a daily horiscope in the paper and automaticlly say "whoop, this is bullshit." I can just state example in my life.

my best friends (four of us total) are a cancer (july 4th), a gemini (june 18th), a capricorn (jan 15th), and myself, a sag (nov 27th).

well first of all, signs have their opposites. Cancer/capricorn, Aries/libra, Tarus/scropio, Gemini/sag, Virgo/Pecies, and Aquarius/leo. If you didn't notice, my primary circle of friends contains 2 sets of opposites. We're quite a dynamic group, really. Music, film, art, video games, cars, some sports, drinking, politics, weed, etc. We're a deep bunch, often sharing experiences, talking out problems, etc. We're extreamly close, even though we've had our shares of falling out. But something still brings us togeather, even though we can't always tolerate each other. I mean, shit, we're (the four of us) are all different, yet we're really the same. Not to mention, a fire sign (sag), a water sign (cancer), an air sign (gemini), and an earth sign (capricorn).

While opposites generally don't attracted, they often do. I'm not saying find a mate/friend who's opposite. One gemini in particular I dated (and a definitional one, at that) was not a good partner. But still....

My Father is a Pecies, my mother a Gemini. While Gemini and Pecies arn't opposite, they're both part of the "mutible" signs, along with Virgo and Sagittarius. All four of the signs are fairly similar, and typiclly, there's chemistry. Two of my siblings are Pecies, another a Leo, and one of my sisters and myself a sag. The leo of the group (my oldest brother) is faily different than the rest of us, but I'm more similar to him than anyone else. Leo and sagittarius are both fire signs, along with Aries. My sister who's also a sag was close to him, but I think gender has some effect on the outcome of astrology. Who knows....

regardless, there's more to astrology than the newspaper, or even astrology profiles. But none of you would know that. That would require you to actually look into it (god forbid).

typiclly I'm a little more inclined to respect other opinions, but this thread is rediculous. I know we all have our own opinions and all, but why post in a topic on astrology and horiscopes when you're just trying to say it sucks, or discredit it (or maybe just me). I mean, the thread isn't about wether it works or not. Thats for the person to dicide. We may as well be arguing about God, and we all know how those convo's go.

I guess some of us just go deeper than others....

 

Are you actually comparing psychology to astrology? Whatever, you've convinced yourself and you're not convincing us.

 

:lmfao: i think the phrase you were looking for instead of respect is something like "be critical of". you're not fooling anyone

 

:werd: Well said.

As far as horoscopes go I view it as purely entertainment. I love to see if the horoscope I am read on the radio in the morning really comes true or not. More often than not though it doesn't. People will believe what they want.

 

how long has science been around? how long has advanced technology been around? how long has all the bullshit that makes up our lives been around (phones, cars, indoor pluming, etc)?

oh wait, we live in a pampered society.

hey, not that I'm complaining. but nonetheless.....

just because something may seem a myth, or a hoax, or however people like you, blackmagik and dsvgsr veiw anceint things such as the bible, or tarot cards, or even astrology (and wouldn't you know, they all root from the same things), doesn't mean that they're invalid.

when newton came up with the concept of gravity, it took nearly 300 years before it could actually be proven valid, due to Einstein. That didn't stop people from observing it, and seeing it work right in front of them.

now, I know, quite a tangent, but the idea of that last paragraph was that just because you can't prove something to be fact/science doesn't mean there's no substance. What about the weather? we kinda understand it, enough to make forecasts. But how often are those acurate? And what about tornatoes? We have abosolutly no idea how to predict them. I guess there's some things we'll never understand



But Astrology roots from the Tarot card system. The tarot cards eventually went on to become our westernized cards, with four suits, just like tarot. Many a parrallel could be drawn between a deck of cards and life. We've all heard enough country songs to verify that fact. But the tarot card system actually comes from the time of the Egyptians, and that whole era. We all know how difficult it is to understand half their culture, so what can we say about their cards that have been tainted over the years?

but did you know that the tarot system is actually from the Kabaala? Thats right, it comes from the Jews. And what else is funny about the Kabaala? Maybe how the text is mathmaticlly acurate, and that words can add up with other words to mean a combined idea.

but we're just talking about the horiscopes in the paper, right?

I think we all know I'm critical. I figured that was more than obvious.

But I still understand differnce of opinion. I just like to argue mine, because I beleive in it so much. Just because my veiw is different than yours isn't the problem. Its the substance behind it. And the fact that even though my shit goes against the mainstream, but I still am as deep as they comes, should actually say alot about me. But you guys wouldn't see that. I don't even want to know how you guys preceive me. It's probably all wrong.

remember, this is the internet. we all know how communication gets garbled on this bullshit. I even have problems talking on a phone.

but here's a news flash: you don't know me. you think you do, but you don't.

 

Another long rant from 18sec. :rollseyes:

I believe in the Bible, I believe what is written, I believe in God, I believe that Jesus was the son of God, I also believe his body was resurrected into Heaven. That's ancient so don't assume you know me and claim I do not believe in something. Like I said people will believe what they want. For me horoscopes are purely for entertainment value and the same goes from Tarot cards. So what if our Westernized deck of cards came from them...I use them to gamble, and play drinking games with...pure entertainment for me.

If you want to believe in Zodiac signs, or Tarot card readings go right ahead. I am not going to stop you. People may disagree with me on my religous views and that is fine...afterall I am in an inter-faith marriage.

 

well, you always seem to be stroking blackmagik and fatbootys cock whenever they're teaming up on me, so I figured I could just lump the three of you into one catigory.

but did you notice I didn't quote you? there's a reason why I didn't.....

 

ahem....
even though you three will be quick to take one minor thing out of context, you'll still somehow miss the core of the thread.

more into this.

gemini comes right before cancer. Sagittarius comes right before capricorn. Like my circle of friends is a metaphysical figure 8, and inifity. Again, we're a dynamic group.

another friend, born july 3rd (cancer, day before my other friend), and tehy both share common traits. Actually, they're pretty close, even though they don't know each other too well. Personallity wise they're not far off. In fact, most severy cancer I've known has always been motherly, sensitive, things of that sort.

one of my friends borthers is born Jan 15th (day before another friend mentioned above, the capricorn), and they're both alike. Materialistic, family orintated, etc.

My friend who's a gemini lives with a girl born 4 days before him. Even though he hates her, they still manage to live togeather, for 4 years. Gemini's tend to be a bit lazy, disorganized, thoughtful, idealistic, unemotional, and multitaskers who drop alot of balls.

and I've already gone into my sag shit.

 

I just agreed with Blackmagik's comment about you respecting others ideas. Far from stroking his cock. And Mike and I tend to disagree more than we agree and have had our share of heated disagreements. I don't think I was stroking his cock either...if my views agreed with his, great, it was not my intention.

 

its called a metaphore. And in this particular case, it was true.