Would you ask a plumber to...
What amuses me is that the people are somehow convinced that the wealthy do not get the greatest benefit from taxes (And somehow returning the taxes to the level of the Reagan years is a bad thing?). FDIC insurance is a great example: Show me someone making 40K per year (or less) who would impact that in case a bank failed (While I think everyone making over 150K per year would take a fair draw from it).
Food stamps and other poor assistance programs are drops in the bucket compared to what benefits to top gain.
Food stamps and other poor assistance programs are drops in the bucket compared to what benefits to top gain.
What amuses me is that the people are somehow convinced that the wealthy do not get the greatest benefit from taxes (And somehow returning the taxes to the level of the Reagan years is a bad thing?). FDIC insurance is a great example: Show me someone making 40K per year (or less) who would impact that in case a bank failed (While I think everyone making over 150K per year would take a fair draw from it).
Food stamps and other poor assistance programs are drops in the bucket compared to what benefits to top gain.
Food stamps and other poor assistance programs are drops in the bucket compared to what benefits to top gain.
My mother and I consider it our civic duty to pay our taxes in full without any attempt to cheat. I make a lot (Though, apparently not as much as a plumber :rofl: ), so I pay substantial taxes every year, but you know, I receive benefit from it. Some years not as much as others, and rarely directly, but it's something I do.
How about posting the whole video instead of some Fox news edit 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFC9j...m/reader/view/
Obama spent a good 5 minutes explaining his plan to the guy.
Critical Thinking. USE IT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFC9j...m/reader/view/
Obama spent a good 5 minutes explaining his plan to the guy.
Critical Thinking. USE IT.
Last edited by Joe; Oct 15, 2008 at 03:59 PM.
OK, fair warning, this post will be a little basementish:
They are really railing on this guy in the debate right now. "My old buddy Joe the Pumber"
YOU NEVER MET THE GUY! :rofl:
They are really railing on this guy in the debate right now. "My old buddy Joe the Pumber"
YOU NEVER MET THE GUY! :rofl:
Last edited by white_n_slow; Oct 15, 2008 at 06:49 PM.
How about posting the whole video instead of some Fox news edit 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFC9j...m/reader/view/
Obama spent a good 5 minutes explaining his plan to the guy.
Critical Thinking. USE IT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFC9j...m/reader/view/
Obama spent a good 5 minutes explaining his plan to the guy.
Critical Thinking. USE IT.
How about posting the whole video instead of some Fox news edit 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFC9j...m/reader/view/
Obama spent a good 5 minutes explaining his plan to the guy.
Critical Thinking. USE IT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFC9j...m/reader/view/
Obama spent a good 5 minutes explaining his plan to the guy.
Critical Thinking. USE IT.
Now that the sounds on my computer works again... So this guy is looking at maybe $270k a year. If you actually listen to Obama, all that income up to $250k will be taxed at the lower rate, and only $20k will be taxed at the ~35%. So even for a rich-ass plumber, this tax plan is really only raising the rate on 8% of his income.
Last edited by Epoch; Oct 16, 2008 at 12:36 PM.
HA, I love teh intarwebs.
This guy's real name is Samuel J Wurzelbacher:
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...the-spotlight/
Turns out this guy doesn't even PAY his taxes in full.
http://apps.co.lucas.oh.us/onlinedoc...2100&PARTY=D,1
This guy's real name is Samuel J Wurzelbacher:
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...the-spotlight/
Turns out this guy doesn't even PAY his taxes in full.
http://apps.co.lucas.oh.us/onlinedoc...2100&PARTY=D,1


