Actually...If a contact, that you contact, thats contacted by a contact that might have some affiliation of al queda, is flagged, you are flagged, spied on, and investigated.

Let me make some sense of that. If you order a pizza from someone that has a brother that he contacts on a regular basis, that has a boss, that has a conversation with someone that is pre-flagged as a al queda member, you are fully investigated....there's a tiered system that the puplic is unaware of. Like I stated before, the Bush administration is not only attacking those that contact our enemy over seas, but rather, investigates, wastes hour upon hour of time, investigating a tier of flagged guilty parties. This means you. Maybe you have nothing to hide, maybe the fact that a phone conversation you've had in the past may have been tapped, and this doesn't bother you, but look at the time wasted....and we all know the cliche saying, time is money.

Chances are, if you are one in 10 americans, you've had a conversation tapped into and have been flagged....and if you argue that this number is false, maybe your right and it's an assumption. But think of all the mass combinations of people...chances are, you know or are affiliated with someone that has been tapped.

I'm sorry, but this doesn't sit easy with me.

Sorry, DVP, but this just tore a massive hole in your argument against me.

 

LOL Fiengold is no more left then President Clinton. His agenda is fixing a mess that we've had handed to us and forced to deal with in the past 6 years. He is willing to side with McCain, a republican, in a bipartisan effort to fix our massive deficit that the Bush adminstration has burdened me, you, and our children with for the next centry...a deficit that Reagon started and Clinton almost entirely fixed.

Right now, I can't think of anyone thats what you call "Radical"...possibly Nancy Pelosi, but do not place Fiengold into that catagory unless you know exactly what his ambitions and goals are.

 

Um yeah, and if he just made up shit like you I'm sure he could tear a 'massive hole' in your BS too. Where are you getting this stuff from

 

The deficit was reduced by the booming economy, the Clinton administration did nothing to directly affect it aside from its tax raise on the wealthy, which was a great way to move America towards socialism by redistributing income. And it was never "entirely fixed" as you people like to believe...it was simply projected to go to a surplus. It was never actually a surplus. Then, mainly because of the inattention, the economy collapsed during the last year of the Clinton administration and the whole dotcom bubble burst. This neccesitated tax cuts to stimulate the economy. Then 9/11 happened. This neccisitated military spending to make up for all the military cutbacks that had been made during the Clinton years so that we could defend ourselves. Hence a deficit.

FYI, Reagan 'started' the deficit to put the USSR out of business. He simply outspent them and completely collapsed their economy. What would you rather have, a government deficit that means very little except on paper or the Soviet Union breathing down our necks?

 

You just made an argument on something that is made up. How do you know that many people get flagged because I called a pizza place who's unlce's brother's cousin is in Al Qaeda. By your logic every person in America is being listened in on and that is not feasibly possible. You have no more insight into the program than I do and nowhere credible did the scenario you paint ever come up.

You did not tear a hole in anything but made yourself look like a fool. Argue facts, not hogwash.

 

Clinton was as centrist as they come for a Democrat. Feingold is to the left of him. Sure he is not a moonbat lefty like Red Kennedy or Pelosi but he is still radical on many things and is appeasing the far left base with his motion of censure. If you think Feingold is a moderate you are merely proving how left your views are.

 

When I started this thread I called it "Censuring Bush" and not "Censoring Bush." Who edited this, and why?

 

LOL I didn't even notice...Maybe han is afraid of being spied on...the FBI might come and run background checks on all of the mods and members.

You know, by not supporting Bush's efforts, your just supporting terrorists...come on, what kind of example is this setting for Iran

 

If the democratic party wins enough elections and dominates the house in November, impeachment will be quite possible.

 

Not really. Any political capital the Democrats would gain by the leadership in the House would be wasted. They are not that dumb. Their most likely target would be Rove, if he is not indicted by Fitzgerald and other "staffers" in the White House. It will be pretty tough getting Bush on faulty pre-war intelligence when the top spy at the time & Clinton apointee (George Tenet) reponds to President Bush' question of whether or not the intelligence was credible and is told it is "A slam dunk!" It will also be pretty tough going after the NSA spying on terrorists as it has already been pointed out every law scholar that has weighed in on it has said it was within the Presidential powers or the law there is murky at best.