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Old Jan 4, 2003 | 05:50 AM
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Just looking at the tread pattern on the tires, they look like Bridgestone S-02s. Come on GM, hit us with the S-03s! Although I think maybe the S-02 has become the top tire Bridgestone sells to OEMs, they come standard on the S2000 and IS300 w/ Sport Package.
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Old Jan 4, 2003 | 07:01 AM
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Originally posted by MrFatBooty
Just looking at the tread pattern on the tires, they look like Bridgestone S-02s. Come on GM, hit us with the S-03s! Although I think maybe the S-02 has become the top tire Bridgestone sells to OEMs, they come standard on the S2000 and IS300 w/ Sport Package.
And Accord coupe 6spd.
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Old Jan 4, 2003 | 07:47 AM
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Originally posted by kazi
And Accord coupe 6spd.
I thought they came standard with Michelin Pilots

Mike, the S-02 has better dry handling (therefore grip) charachteristics than the S-03..but the S-03 kicks its ass in the wet.
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Old Jan 4, 2003 | 09:24 AM
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There's two versions of the S-02. Plain old S-02 and S-02 Pole Position. The plain one is a "dry-only" tire although not to the level of say the BFG g-Force KD. OEMs get that one, not the Pole Position. The S-03 is also a Pole Position tire, that's the name Bridgestone tacks on to its high-po rain tires.

I know the S-03 gives up a tiny smidge of dry grip to the S-02 variants but the rain traction is way better which is why I'd like to see it offered to OEMs. The plain S-02 is still good, just not the best tire Bridgestone has out now.

Okay it's my fault for derailing the thread...back to the GTO!
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 05:53 PM
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You have to wonder who Lutz had to murder at the Pontiac division to prevent the GTO from being cladded to death. I must say I don't have a negative thing to say about it. I may actually step foot on a Pontiac dealer for the first time since 1996 to look at this car. It's clean, sporty, relatively tight seams, nice proportions, very classy stitching on the gear shift, and except for the steering wheel, looks like someone took their time and put some effort into designing the car. The center dash cluster looks a little bland (should have an LCD with push-buttons for the climate control), but overall, a giant leap forward for GM and Pontiac. Albeit they had to import it, but it's better than nothing. Or worse yet, a Detroit design.
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by fastball
It's clean, sporty, relatively tight seams, nice proportions, very classy stitching on the gear shift, and except for the steering wheel, looks like someone took their time and put some effort into designing the car.
Possibly because Holden of Australia designed it, not GM :fawk:
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 10:47 PM
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It looks pretty good both inside and outside. One more $30,000 sport car coming to the market, let me count:

Pontiac GTO
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution
Infiniti G35 coupe/G35 sedan
Lexus IS300
Honda S2000
Acura TSX
BMW 325i/325Ci/330i/330Ci/Convertible
M-B C230 Kompressor/C320 Sport
Acura 3.2TL-S/3.2CL-S
Mazda 6 LS V6
Honda Accord EX V6 coupe/sedan
Nissan Maxima SE
Nissan Altima 3.5SE
Nissan 350Z
Audi A4 1.8T/3.0/Cabriolet
Saab 9-3 Vector
BMW Z4 2.5i
Subaru Impreza WRX
Mazda RX-8
Jaguar X-Type 2.5/3.0
Cadillac CTS
BMW 525i
Lexus GS300
Lincoln LS 3.0
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Old Jan 6, 2003 | 09:21 AM
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Originally posted by 95AccordV6
It looks pretty good both inside and outside. One more $30,000 sport car coming to the market, let me count:

Pontiac GTO
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution
Infiniti G35 coupe/G35 sedan
Lexus IS300
Honda S2000
Acura TSX
BMW 325i/325Ci/330i/330Ci/Convertible
M-B C230 Kompressor/C320 Sport
Acura 3.2TL-S/3.2CL-S
Mazda 6 LS V6
Honda Accord EX V6 coupe/sedan
Nissan Maxima SE
Nissan Altima 3.5SE
Nissan 350Z
Audi A4 1.8T/3.0/Cabriolet
Saab 9-3 Vector
BMW Z4 2.5i
Subaru Impreza WRX
Mazda RX-8
Jaguar X-Type 2.5/3.0
Cadillac CTS
BMW 525i
Lexus GS300
Lincoln LS 3.0

Umm do you know the difference between a sports car and sport sedan???
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Old Jan 6, 2003 | 10:04 AM
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If you "insist" on making a list, here's a much better one. :fawk:

Sports Cars/Sport Sedans
Audi A4 1.8T
BMW 3-series (2.5 liter)
BMW Z4 2.5i
Ford Mustang Mach 1
Honda S2000
Infiniti G35
Lexus IS300
Mazda Miata
Mazda RX-8
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution
Nissan 350Z
Pontiac GTO
Subaru Impreza WRX (STi)
Toyota MR2 Spyder

Poser "sporty" models
Acura TL Type-S
Honda Accord Sedan V6
Jaguar X-Type 2.5
Lincoln LS V6
Mercedes-Benz C230 Sports Coupe
Nissan Altima 3.5 SE
Nissan Maxima SE

"On the bubble"
Acura 3.2CL Type-S
Acura TSX
Cadillac CTS
Honda Accord Coupe V6 6-speed
Mazda 6s
SAAB 9-3 Vector
Volvo S60 T5
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Old Jan 6, 2003 | 10:53 AM
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All agreed, Mike. Don't forget the Accord sedan in the poser section and the Coupe 6 speed in the bubble :thumbup:
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