Agreed. Beat Lex to a two door version. Who cares if it eats into the Accord sales, in the end Honda still gets the money.

 

Honda always gains money and I think they should expand their lineup. Add a V8 to Ridgeline and compete with full-size trucks (F-150, Tundra)

 

The IS-F has a new torque converter design. The shifting time from the steering wheel based shifters are almost the same as in a DSG.

 

Do you know what is "torque"?

The IS-F doesn't need as much torque as the LS460, since it's way lighter. Torque is only good for low-rev start up. As long as it's adequate, there is no advantage to overshoot it. From that point on, it's the horsepower that really counts.

 

no genius. torque is the measured output, horsepower is a calculated value.
a comparison:
an engine making 100ft-lbs up from 0-100rpm is just as useful as another engine making 200ft-lbs from 0-50rpm

the reason is GEARING. plus he is right, it makes no sense for an engine tuned for performance, using a similar design from the same company to have lesser torque than the smaller engine.

horsepower is basically just a idiots way of interpreting useful torque band. whats actually useful to know is the area under the torque curve marked off at each shiftpoint added together at the wheels.... but most people wouldn't understand what i just said, so don't feel too bad. horsepower in this day in age is about as useful as circular mils

 

Missing the point, dude. I don't care if DSG or SMG or whatever new manumatic the engineers can come up with shift faster/better/more efficiently, it just doesn't match the feel and control of shifter+clutch. Big reason I like cars is because I like to drive. I don't need the car driving me.

 

they did this because they wanted 8-speeds. the 8-speed is going to make it much faster and probably much more fuel effcient than it's competitors, regardless of engine power output.

with the new rregulations coming in with the new EPA ratings anything with more than say 3.0 liters is going to get hit hard in the MPG-- the only logical way to keep suggested MPG up and performance up at the same time would be to introduce more gears across a wider area

on another note i wouldn't be suprised if the top speed of this thing was 190+ it's CD is minimal and it's got serious downforce helping it out.

 

the "F"??? doesn't sound nearly as good as "Type R"

 

F probably stands for Failure, I dunno.
Type-S sounds better, sounds sportier than F.

 

type-r sounds downright retarded. F has a nice tone when used IS-F GS-F LS-F

it works, and it sounds more original than using some other knock-off naming pattern