Sounds like a rev happy engine, so the tq is probably coming at fairly high RPMs

 

add up the most common options for any porsche and you'll be surprised at the end result.


if the engine revs to 8000 rpm and the 310lb/ft doesn't drop off until 7000rpm is it still torqueless? because last time i checked it's not how high or what the peak torque that matters, it's the "area" under the curve.

 

exactly. torque is a meaninless number unless you have a dyno sheet-- it's the entire reason we have the term horsepower-- otherwise we'd just use peak torque numbers.


what use is 370 ft-lbs of torque if it comes on strong at 1k and then drops off the graph after 3k?

horsepower reflects how well an engine can hold it's torque and what kind of torque will be going to the wheels after gearing has been applied.

 

peak HP is as meaningless as peak TQ. It could make low HP until the last 2k rpm before readline and shoot up 100HP more. That doesn't help either.

 

You are fucking retarded. Do you think BMW just built this car and didn't realize that the HP and torque weren't even? It takes 10,000 engineers to build a car, and you think after 2 seconds that you know more than they do?

 

no, but it gives a better representation of the actual power of the engine than peak torque

i had a car once with 220ft-lbs of torque-- it had a whopping 140 horse

horsepower at least take into consideration engine rpm's and torque-- i personally wait until i see the dyno graphs h:

 

and your point is? we are talking about the M3, not a Porsche

True, but ideally you want a flat torque band. Looking at the current M3's chart, most of the torque is reached at a high rpm. Hence, the area is small.

 

and what was your point? it's a bmw not an acura/honda/etc.



over 200lb/ft at 2500rpm. area looks pretty large to me.

 

So you are assuming I am a Honda/Acura fanatic, or should I assume you are just alluding to their pricing strategy?

here's a link for C55:
http://www.dragtimes.com/2006-Merced...aphs-8850.html

- probably isn't fair since it's a V8, but a higher and flatter torque band nonetheless

one for G35:
http://www.dragtimes.com/2005-Infini...aphs-8859.html

- much more comparable

 

their pricing strategy of course.

yes it is an unfair comparison since it has 2.3L more displacement. of course it will have more torque everywhere in the rpm band.

G35 is a better comparison maybe but it's still lower than the S54.