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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 08:55 AM
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if it Honda do make a profit from it, it won't be anywhere near worth it in $ term.
it's not worth it to make a profit?
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by mayonaise
it's not worth it to make a profit?
They can make alot more profit if they share parts.
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 09:45 AM
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There is a rumour that EITHER the R is coming over or the 2007 RSX will be fully redesigned on new sheetmetal and new design (I assume off the 2006+ Civic Coupe platform??)

I keep hearing it over at ClubRSX (....)

SSC has mentioned it, I believe one of the import mags was talking about it too.




What's REALLY funny guys is this:

When I was having my RSX's suspension serviced because of pops I picked up a reprint they had of the 2002 Car and Driver article about the RSX. The article says something outlandishly bold like "True Integra fans don't dispair -- the Type-R will be coming to America shortly."

I wouldn't call 5 years a short wait, but....
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 09:56 AM
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i kinda hope they dont kill it off... but i know it's going to happen... maybe they wil issue a limited edition type-r the last year.
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by asianautica
They can make alot more profit if they share parts.
okay, but as long as they're still making a profit, how is it not worth it to continue production and development? profit is profit, no matter how you look at it.
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mayonaise
okay, but as long as they're still making a profit, how is it not worth it to continue production and development? profit is profit, no matter how you look at it.
Depend on how cash strap the company is and how much profit the bean counter expect per car. Just look at the Supra TT, 300ZX TT, RX-7. I'm sure they all make profit per vehicle, but after a certain threshold, it's not a good business sense anymore. Almost every affordable sport cars now share part w/ a higher volume sedan. Even the Corvette share parts w/ the CTS-V. I think the S2k is one of the last few that doesn't. So we'll just have to wait and see what Honda management decide. But I think they'll have to follow the trend to maximize profit.
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by asianautica
Depend on how cash strap the company is and how much profit the bean counter expect per car. Just look at the Supra TT, 300ZX TT, RX-7. I'm sure they all make profit per vehicle, but after a certain threshold, it's not a good business sense anymore. Almost every affordable sport cars now share part w/ a higher volume sedan. Even the Corvette share parts w/ the CTS-V. I think the S2k is one of the last few that doesn't. So we'll just have to wait and see what Honda management decide. But I think they'll have to follow the trend to maximize profit.
all of the cars you mentioned follow a different business model than the S2000. the limited production of the S2000 lowers supply and raises demand, increasing its value and exclusivity. this is just like more expensive exotic cars. ferarri would be in trouble if they produced cars in the same type of volumes as the corvette or RX-7. they don't need to rely on a huge volume of sales in order to keep the car profitable.

i otherwise agree with you, that it's in their best interest to develop some cars based off of S2000 technology. but as i've said before, this can be done in many ways. they don't have to convert the entirety of the acura lineup to RWD, as you have suggested. in fact, i don't see the logic in this at all. they don't *have to* share (whole) raw components either, but it wouldn't be the end of the world if they did. what they can do, is spread the technological achievements and knowledge the S2000 gave them throughout their product line, and use it as a platform for the development of more cutting-edge technologies. i really wouldn't be surprised if they're already doing that. there may not be an S2000-based acura in the works, or a car with an S2000 drive train bolted onto it. but i'm sure many of the technologies they discovered are being applied to other cars already.
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by bnuk
you got a source for that?
www.edmunds.com
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 09:21 AM
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It's not about profit or no profit, its how much profit. they have already have billions invested in these plants all over the world and they have a limited capacity to produce cars. If they could be making a more profitable car they will shit-can a marginally profitable car in a heartbeat in order to make room for production of the new car.
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 09:22 AM
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It's not about profit or no profit, its how much profit. they have already have billions invested in these plants all over the world and they have a limited capacity to produce cars. If they could be making a more profitable car they will shit-can a marginally profitable car in a heartbeat in order to make room for production of the new car.
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