LS TURBO vs. GSR
Just to toss my opinion in here. I picked the LS because I figured that it would be cheaper to mod and a good car for a novice such as myself. I want to go turbo, and eventually I will. I'm not looking for a monster, just something that handles better, and runs faster than stock. I have no need for 10 second 1/4 passes(for now). I would say that the LS would be better for a novice to start with, and a GSR would be better for someone that's more comfortable boosting a car than say, myself.
btw.. i've had a friend who boosts around 11psi (same as newgsrdriver).. he's had this done for about 2 1/2 years... his car runs just as great as the day it was completed... oh and yes.. it's a GS-R.....
Deludedteg,
Thanks for the advice man but i think i can handle it. I've been driving for about 3 years now in my grand am. It puts out about 160 hp so its not too huge of a jump. I really dont think an LS is an option for me anymore to be honest. This forum has helped me to realize that. In regards to my level of experiance. I am an autotech student so i have access to expert advice and tools should i say (**** myself and my car). If i plan on doing anything im not gonna be stupid about it. If i go turbo im not worried about the LS being more user friendly because like i said before if it is tuned properly there should not be any problems. This is what i would like to do. I'd like to first of all get my gsr with high milage. Say 80-120k. My next class i get to lift out any engine of my choosing, completely rebuild it and put it back in the car. I can also install turbos under the supervision of my shop teachers so this sounds promising. What i'd like to do is jump from the gsr engine to a b18c5 and turbo that. I know its a lil more risky but once again its safe if properly tuned. This is just an idea assuming i dont experiance any more financial problems. What do you guys think?
Ben
Thanks for the advice man but i think i can handle it. I've been driving for about 3 years now in my grand am. It puts out about 160 hp so its not too huge of a jump. I really dont think an LS is an option for me anymore to be honest. This forum has helped me to realize that. In regards to my level of experiance. I am an autotech student so i have access to expert advice and tools should i say (**** myself and my car). If i plan on doing anything im not gonna be stupid about it. If i go turbo im not worried about the LS being more user friendly because like i said before if it is tuned properly there should not be any problems. This is what i would like to do. I'd like to first of all get my gsr with high milage. Say 80-120k. My next class i get to lift out any engine of my choosing, completely rebuild it and put it back in the car. I can also install turbos under the supervision of my shop teachers so this sounds promising. What i'd like to do is jump from the gsr engine to a b18c5 and turbo that. I know its a lil more risky but once again its safe if properly tuned. This is just an idea assuming i dont experiance any more financial problems. What do you guys think?
Ben
b18c spec-r motor has a compression of 11:1...not exactly optimal for a street turbo setup. it'll make hella power with little boost...but the margin of error is SOOO tiny when tuning.
my bud has a boosted usdm ITR. it put down 282 whp at 6.5 psi. & thats at 5800' altitude. but he melted a piston & he was running rich as hell.
if i were in your shoes, i'd build a whatever i found cheapest out of these motors:
b18c spec-r
b18c
b18c1
b18c5
the b18c1 or b18c will most likely be cheapest tho, & thats what i personally would go with.
Then get 9:1 pistons, crower rods, & a blockguard or sleeves. 9:1 seems to be an excellent medium between running a good amount of boost, getting low end power, & giving you a larger margin of error.
my bud has a boosted usdm ITR. it put down 282 whp at 6.5 psi. & thats at 5800' altitude. but he melted a piston & he was running rich as hell.
if i were in your shoes, i'd build a whatever i found cheapest out of these motors:
b18c spec-r
b18c
b18c1
b18c5
the b18c1 or b18c will most likely be cheapest tho, & thats what i personally would go with.
Then get 9:1 pistons, crower rods, & a blockguard or sleeves. 9:1 seems to be an excellent medium between running a good amount of boost, getting low end power, & giving you a larger margin of error.


