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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 07:52 AM
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I'm sure it's been asked before, probably as annoying as the monotanous "How much would it cost to swap auto to standard transmission?" questions...

this is strictly out of curiosity (sp?) but anyways, here goes...

What kinda money would someone drop into a vehicle switching it into either RWD or AWD? I know an RWD has been done for a drifting teg.. but AWD?

More important a question, what is done to make that happen? I don't know a whole lot about that part of the car, and I figured having stupid questions like this answered might pull a lot of knowledge to me.
I don't even know what it's referred to as.. the Drivetrain? think so...

What process would one have to take on in order to make it AWD?
They'd have to pretty much strip the entire car right down to the body huh?

If anyone could just bullet-list off all the steps one would take to achieve that?
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 08:01 AM
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I guess my first question is....

why would you want to drift an AWD car...??

traction is to drifting what salt is to snails...

IE, if all the wheels have traction, how can you drift?

I know 3 people, off the top of my head, two who bought Lancer evo MR's and one with an STI WRX who converted them to RWD for drifting...seems to me AWD and drifting flat out don't go together.

Just my .02
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Ninj4r
I'm sure it's been asked before, probably as annoying as the monotanous "How much would it cost to swap auto to standard transmission?" questions...

this is strictly out of curiosity (sp?) but anyways, here goes...

What kinda money would someone drop into a vehicle switching it into either RWD or AWD? I know an RWD has been done for a drifting teg.. but AWD?

More important a question, what is done to make that happen? I don't know a whole lot about that part of the car, and I figured having stupid questions like this answered might pull a lot of knowledge to me.
I don't even know what it's referred to as.. the Drivetrain? think so...

What process would one have to take on in order to make it AWD?
They'd have to pretty much strip the entire car right down to the body huh?

If anyone could just bullet-list off all the steps one would take to achieve that?
Kthx
im no 'expert' or anything :rick: but i'll take a shot at answering your questions.

you would need the drivetrain from an awd car, transfer cases; rear end; etc.; figure out a way to connect it to the engine/tranny, figure out a way to mount it all.

basically, lots of know how, lots of time, and lots of money.
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Oldschool
I guess my first question is....

why would you want to drift an AWD car...??

traction is to drifting what salt is to snails...

IE, if all the wheels have traction, how can you drift?

I know 3 people, off the top of my head, two who bought Lancer evo MR's and one with an STI WRX who converted them to RWD for drifting...seems to me AWD and drifting flat out don't go together.

Just my .02
I apologize, you misinterpreted.
I meant "I know there's been a teg converted to RWD for drifting purposes."
but if I were to ever tackle that kind of a project, i'd personally go with AWD.
the AWD part had nothing to do with the drifting part, 2 different statements.

.02 appreciated though.
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 08:29 AM
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ok lets first get this corrected. any1 who thinks drifters want less traction as posible is a idiot and knows nothing about drifting, u dont go throwing bald tires and spin them out. drifters need traction b/c the motor sport is judged not just on goin sideways but also the angle control in the turn and tire smoke, they need traction or they end up smacking the wall or another drifter in tandems. i have heard about the flexiblity of the VW awd system, it has been put into the focus b4 for some fed up reason but VW awd sucks cuz its just fwd when the tire spin up front it converts 20% torgue to the back, great for snowy drivways. anyway may i ask y would u do this unless u build a rally integra which would be nice to see but u would need a better awd system. and also there are many awd drift cars like r34s and some evos i have seen, the reason they are not in d1 or any other major league is that they are restricted by the rule that the car must be rwd.
also in doesnt matter about traction as long as the car has enough power to kick out the tires in a mid gear. for instance when goin into the turn from a dead stop the car accels to 3rd and kepps it mid rpm then enters the turn from the outside and curves throught the middle, kicks the cluch brings it to almost red and begins to spin the tires after cuting the whell the oppposite way then ajusting for his angle and exit of the turn.
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 08:55 AM
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Well, as my name implies, if you aren't talking about 1/4 mile or SCCA rallycross or WRC, I am in the dark....Just spat out the first thought that came to mind considering the info I have gathered...drifting is a "dark" art to me, thanks for the edumacation :P
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 01:09 PM
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honda tuner did this i believe, try to look it up...i think that they used an AWD drivetrain from a CRV
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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Also, there were some years where the JDM had an AWD version of the teggy. Judging by the usual interchangeability of parts you might be able to swap (I'm not an authority, just throwing that out). However, IIRC it was a weak system that was 80% front and like 20% rear w/ no variance, just so they could market it as AWD (although I assume a CRV setup would be very similar).
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 06:33 PM
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When speed garage had an actual "garage" where they did swap work and what not they did all kinds of crazy shit. I bought 2 motors from them back in the day when they were still opened as a shop and saw it for myself. They still do mail order from what I last heard, but the "shop" as far as I know ended a few years back. Anyways, I remember at the time I visited the showroom, they had swapped an h22 into a CRX (hella snug) but they did it. There was also a rear wheel drive 93 Integra they had done. I was also enlightened to learn they were "working" on an AWD project but the info. was limited and it was so damn hectic in there, I did not get a chance to look further into it. My time was up. So yeah, it can be done and there is people working on it I'm sure. Your value is into the thousands for sure though. So if you got the $$$ it can be done. Oh I also saw a Mitsubishi 3000gt engine crammed into the engine bay of a Mazda 323, those are not even the same manufactuer, so seriously, shit can be done w/$$$.
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 09:45 PM
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i saw a 73 240z lifted on big-ass tires with an american 350 under the hood. it was cool but i still just had to ask why
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