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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 08:25 PM
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My 2.3¥ ~ 0.021211USD haha i get it
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 09:52 PM
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2) Rebuilding Costs: Turbo vs JRSC:

Eaton, the company that makes the superchargers for Jackson Racing / Moss Motors can rebuild their superchargers just as easily as a turbo can be rebuilt. The difference in rebuilding costs are negligible, as Jackson Racing provides a 100K mile warranty on the supercharger. To the best of my knowledge, no turbo kit comes with that level of protection.

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Considering the horror stories coming from people buying JRSC, I would never even consider one even if they were a good idea on a 4 cylinder engine to begin with. Yeah, they have a 100k mile warranty, but how many calls, flaming hoops, and hassles would you have to go through to fulfill that warranty due to the awful customer service over at Jackson Racing. I have a Greddy kit and I don't doubt their service would be just as bad, if not worse. But they have an excuse: they are a completely Japanese company who works through dealers, not customers. Where is Jackson Racing's excuse?
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Originally Posted by Shmoo
Considering the horror stories coming from people buying JRSC, I would never even consider one even if they were a good idea on a 4 cylinder engine to begin with. Yeah, they have a 100k mile warranty, but how many calls, flaming hoops, and hassles would you have to go through to fulfill that warranty due to the awful customer service over at Jackson Racing. I have a Greddy kit and I don't doubt their service would be just as bad, if not worse. But they have an excuse: they are a completely Japanese company who works through dealers, not customers. Where is Jackson Racing's excuse?
I've heard two tales of woe. h:

IMO, the underlying issue is that Oscar Jackson sold his business to Moss Motors and Moss Motors was incapable of providing proper customer care at that time.

I do agree with you though... Moss Motors aka Jackson Racing had no excuse for their prior idiocy.

Since Eaton is responsible for building and servicing the superchargers, the warranty ought to stipulate that the consumer sends their claim directly to Eaton if the unit is deemed defective.

Actually, does anyone know how those 2 cases were resolved? :dunno: I assume that Moss Motors was taken to small-claims court, or they settled.

In the past few years, Moss Motors has shown initiative by building new systems for the K-Series motors and I'm personally willing to consider them as an option. Maybe.

[ slvrteg -- I sincerely apologize for derailing your thread. h:]
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 07:24 AM
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Thanks for the viewpoints. I have also heard of problems with JRSC but have also heard many people who love them. not sure what to think then. If i was to get a turbo i would intercool it, which would in turn knock down the psi a few pounds, which would mean i would have to drive the turbo that much harder to get a solid 6 psi to the manifold. If this isn't correct let me know. also has anyone had experience with or heard about the garrett gt28rs? or any other suggestions for turbo.
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a buddy of mine has a JRSC on his GSR. took me for a spin and i was impressed. at full throttle thats when the bypass valve closes to allow for full boost. the sound of the supercharging winding up was really cool. put me in my seat, but near the top of the powerband it was fizzling out.
Old Apr 6, 2005 | 09:34 AM
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What psi is yours friend running on his JRSC?
Old Apr 6, 2005 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by slvrteg
Thanks for the viewpoints. I have also heard of problems with JRSC but have also heard many people who love them. not sure what to think then. If i was to get a turbo i would intercool it, which would in turn knock down the psi a few pounds, which would mean i would have to drive the turbo that much harder to get a solid 6 psi to the manifold. If this isn't correct let me know. also has anyone had experience with or heard about the garrett gt28rs? or any other suggestions for turbo.
With the right size FMIC, you will not lose enough PSI to even notice. I wouldn't make that as large of a consideration that you are. Have you considered the Vortech SC?
Old Apr 6, 2005 | 09:57 AM
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no not really, i have heard that the Vortech is junk. peaky and useless. i want a daily driver with some punch. Haven't really heard even one person say the Vortech was good. Figured the Roots blower would be my best bet for a SC.
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Originally Posted by slvrteg
What psi is yours friend running on his JRSC?
he has it setup on his management system: 8psi at half-throttle, 10psi at WOT
Old Apr 6, 2005 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by slvrteg
no not really, i have heard that the Vortech is junk. peaky and useless. i want a daily driver with some punch. Haven't really heard even one person say the Vortech was good. Figured the Roots blower would be my best bet for a SC.
If I were to supercharge, I would consider the JRSC way before I considered the Vortech system as well. The powerband is so incredibly narrow, so you might as well go with a turbo kit that creates much more power than a Vortech kit will ever provide. The centrifugal kits reintroduce lag which is why people supercharge instead of turbo, so why even bother?



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