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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 06:28 AM
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Ok, I am going to be getting some boost for my 2001 gsr w/ stock internals and 93 octane. I was going to get the JR hight boost supercharger w/ the hondata ecu, which should be making somewhere around 230whp at 8psi. But now i am wondering if i would be able to make the same power with a turbo but with less psi? i dont want a laggy dyno queen turbo though. needs to be driveable. heard the garrett GT28RS is good.
Old Apr 5, 2005 | 06:26 AM
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I would go with the supercharger, less expensive and makes almost the same power when you are at the same psi with a turbo. Its your decision though, just do what you want to do.
Old Apr 5, 2005 | 06:53 AM
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i like the ease of installation of the supercharger and the hondata is included. but i have seen some turbo kits that claimed around the same hp with like 2 psi less boost. Figured i could either run less boost for the same power and less stress on my engine or turn up boost to equal JR level and get more hp.
Old Apr 5, 2005 | 11:35 AM
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a super charger takes away power thats y a turbo can make more with less psi, i dont know if the supercharger is faster because it is limited with the rpm of the motor, a super charger is better for v6, v8. and for a good supercharger is around 2gs and up the best is jackson. personaly i would go with a turbo because i can always change it for a lager or smaller turbo without much trouble, but if the blower goes on a supercharge u will end up gettin a new supercharger kit
Old Apr 5, 2005 | 11:49 AM
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JRSC are pieces of shit anyway. Get a turbo and you will be much happier.
Old Apr 5, 2005 | 11:59 AM
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I would not call the JRSC a POS by any means.
For those who detest lag in any amount, a postive displacement "blower" makes a hell of a lot of sense. [I'm actually looking at one for my DC4. h:]

That said, a turbocharger is a more efficient form of forced induction...i.e, at a given boost pressure, the intake charge temperature will be lower with a turbo than with a JRSC.

That said, there are some interesting options for intercooling the JRSC. Mike (MrFatBooty) posted a link to a company that retrofits the JRSC intake manifolds with air-to-water intercoolers. PM him for the link if you're interested.

It's a matter of personal preference and budget. Since you've expressed concern about lag, I'd bet you'd be happier with a JRSC. It wil amplify torque much lower than most turbo kits.

If it's at all possible, get some seat time behind the wheel of a turboed GSR and supercharged GSR. Then make your decision as to which powerband feels best for you.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by civicandtegra
a super charger takes away power thats y a turbo can make more with less psi, i dont know if the supercharger is faster because it is limited with the rpm of the motor, a super charger is better for v6, v8. and for a good supercharger is around 2gs and up the best is jackson. personaly i would go with a turbo because i can always change it for a lager or smaller turbo without much trouble, but if the blower goes on a supercharge u will end up gettin a new supercharger kit
Okay..I'm not picking on you, but there's more to this discussion that needs to be said. h:

1) How can you say a blower is "better" for a certain kind of engine?

Regardless of engine size or layout, turbochargers produce a different kind of powerband than superchargers. It comes down to the preference of the driver. IMO, since our engines lack torque in general, I'd argue that a supercharger is more effective for a street-driven car than a bolt-on turbo kit, which does little to aid torque until around 3000 rpm.

2) Rebuilding Costs: Turbo vs JRSC:

Eaton, the company that makes the superchargers for Jackson Racing / Moss Motors can rebuild their superchargers just as easily as a turbo can be rebuilt. The difference in rebuilding costs are negligible, as Jackson Racing provides a 100K mile warranty on the supercharger. To the best of my knowledge, no turbo kit comes with that level of protection.

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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 01:25 PM
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 04:00 PM
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just make sure you don't get worried when you hear noises coming from the BOV.
Old Apr 5, 2005 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by LT6916
just make sure you don't get worried when you hear noises coming from the BOV.
hahahah lol, I loved that thread. :lmfao:



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