Ooo... personal attacks on a moderator, we know how to deal with people like you. So how about you cut the tough man stuff because you don't know anything about me.

Anyways, since you're obviously missing my point: Older engines don't always have all the same plug types or sensors as newer OBD generation engines. Since not everyone has the pin tools for changing plugs without splicing, those sorts of little changes are something that will catch a careful smog official's eye. Even if you're careful enough to solder, shrink tube and re-tape, that new wrapping usually throws up a flag as well.

It's not my fault if you have a fetish with OBD1, it really isn't. In most all smog stations in the country now, OBD2 cars are tested via the diagnostic port. We aren't here to condone or suggest ways to outwit a smog official, I'll leave that solely up to the car owner. "Getting around something easily" doesn't involve swapping ECUs in my opinion, it involves doing it right the first time.

As for imagination, yeah, I'll keep that in mind seeing as how I've built a significant number of engines in the last 3 years, dating from '49 up to an '02.

 

The B16 is a great motor aside from that maybe a B18 but they are spendy....why would it need a swap after all its a 99? Or is it just for more power?

As for Phiz...your an assclown buddy. Have you ever even swapped a motor with an OBD change? Different sensors and number of sensors, plug types, PIN settings, all kinds of stuff to changeover...not just removal of an air sensor like you must be thinking.

Grow up and quit being an Internet engine builder. In Cal they are strict as hell...if they notice wiring changes on a visual they can fail you on the spot.

Get a clue then come back when you are willing to learn something and ask valid questions instead of jumping into a conversation you know nothing about.

Oh and BTW OBDII engines will tune just as nicely as an OBDI engine will.....in fact a lot of the shops I deal with are starting to prefer OBDII over OBDI.

 

i'd stick with the b16.

 

Hhaha, Yeah, I'm the one doing the dick-waving, where in cali do you live? Neverland ranch?

No I haven't done any engine swaps, but I AM running OBD1 on an OBD2 motor plus original OBD2b wiring harness.

I CAN read, regardless of 1stgencrxers's opinions, the thread starter was offered the option to put an OBD2 motor in an OBD2 harness car. Holy shit, that's the same setup I'm running!!!!

I know nothing, yet I can disable sensors, in the ECU code, can YOU do that?

OBD2 hondas do not "tune as nicly as obd1" as a matter of fact. I know of two entities producing tuning solutions for OBD2 honda ecus, that's tech-tom a commercial JDM outfit, and someone from malaysia, that I interact with personally.

Oh and jet and jun et al, will probably send you a "pre-tuned" unit.

The OBD2 ECUs have a lot of POTENTIAL, as they have the potential to be set for a baseline, and correct fuel/timing based on sensor input.

However, the 66507 MCU (MCU, not a rom mind you, internal memory on the processor) is a 70 dollar write-once part. That gets kinda ridiculous when you need to tune, make a change, tune, test, etc.

Also, the 66507 is an 84 pin PLCC packaging chip, and basically would need to be de-soldered and socketed on a professional SMT workbench.

Ok, sorry for getting involved in a conversation "I know nothing about"

Hey, just for fun, I'll give you a chance to redeem yourself, we're looking for the 02 sensor location in memory on the PM6 ecu. Is that a valid question??? Am I LEARNING YET?

-PHiZ

**** you guys, I got ECUs to chip.

Thread starter, sorry for any part I had in hijacking your thread.

 

You, asshat, have an OBD2 car with an OBD2 engine.

You are using an OBD1 ECU via an adapter harness.


Putting an OBD1 engine into a OBD2 car can require some wiring changes at the engine harness.

That is a result of the different techniques required to do such modification, which you would know if, as you claim, you knew something.

Congratulations, you know information that has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation at hand. I would give you a cookie, but alas... I'm all out.

 

Ok, but I'm talking about an OBD2 engine in an OBD2 harness car running off of an OBD1 ecu, I swear... you people say I can't read.


Ha, you're talking out your ass, you didn't even say anything here. Like I said, I directly interact with the people at the forefront of the emerging OBD2 tuning/chipping market.



I directly refrenced a quote with that info, talking about tuning OBD2 ecus.

You guys aren't even a joke, you're all ****ing punchlines.

-PHiZ

 

Who the fuck are you, Dom Toretto? Shut the fuck up or get your stinkin ass out of my forum before I ban you.

 

Not directed at anyone in particular (especially 1stgencrxer), read it for what it is.
hey guys ur arguing is pointless, unless you just want to try to make more of a point of looking like dicks, the question at hand is NO u do not necessarily have to get a new ecu, use ur si ecu, it will do fine, WOW that was pretty hard to write without trying to be biased toward a particular ecu or obd preference. in threads where people are trying to get help please just offer ur help, not ur personal opinions or arguements, if u want to argue the better obd system please start up a new thread for that purpose and try to be man enough to not put down someone for the personal opinion u may get. u guys act like children sometimes

 

sorry to have started such a problem hehe, but 1stgen is right, you dont know the hassle of trying to make it legal in cali unless you have experienced it or heard stories... everything has to be at least as new, if not newer than the body of the car, and everything must be stock in order to smog it..... and they really dislike JDM swaps even if everything is OK on it.....

 

id say stick with ur current set up use ur existing tranny and ecu ( no reason to spend more than necessary), and go either with another b16a2
http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc...age&item=30018
or the b18c if u are willing to put in the extra money.
http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc...age&item=30020