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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 04:05 PM
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It's all good... Plus my car has a stock auto tranny with 205,000 km, which wouldn't play well with a built up anything..
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Old Dec 6, 2002 | 04:35 PM
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Well I've been posting for months now on forums trying to find anyone that has built an F22/23 set-up. I'm primarily concerned with the SOHC Vtec over the non-vtec but I like them all the same.

A bud of mine in Scotland is running an F18 non-Vtec with some port work and seems to be quite happy with the set-up. He has much higher compression then USDM. (UK has better gas.)

Anyway, I've mapped the flow patterns of stock B16A engines vs. Modified D16Z Vtec engines. It would appear that the torque happy nature of the little D' gives it wonderful gains when ported combined with upped compresion (11:1)

Well, then I mapped an H22 wheel dyno vs. an F23 wheel dyno all stock. To my surprise the f23 meet the h22 pound for pound until the h22 exhaust vtec change over. By extrapolating the F23 in the same manner as a modified D16Z assuming same mods. (Head and pistons) It would appear a Modified F-series should produce H22(stock) results at the wheel with little trouble. Figuring parts for a fully build head and piston run around 1600.oo and if you are still reading this you are likely very board. I'm voting for fixing up the F-series.

Anyone know if an F's-stock computer can handle an 11:1 compression ratio? I'll need to know such stupids things while working on building up the Killer F22/23 Vtec street monster, Man ain't know one giv'n the little SOHC F' and props.......dang.....
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Old Dec 6, 2002 | 06:35 PM
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fmax also makes turbo kits for the f22a as well.
or you can go custom.

and as far as a high compression f22/23...i would go with hondata...
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Old Dec 6, 2002 | 07:41 PM
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YAY for SOHC! Im with you dude! Im gonna build up my D16A6 into a D16Y8! Anyoneknow what the legality of doing this is?
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Old Dec 6, 2002 | 11:47 PM
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All the same, with new cylinder sleeves, 9:1 compression pistions and a t88 blower, the h22a would kick some ass too..
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Old Dec 7, 2002 | 06:49 PM
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Well, a fully built H22A in any configuration n/a, FI, etc. will kick an F-series all the way. The main issue I'm trying to stress is most people will never build an H, they just swap them in. For nearly the same in cash you could build a solid F-series. And at some point H22's will become even harder to get. However, at nearly 350,000 Accords sold every year for the last 4-5 years I bet it will take awhile for the supply of F's to run out

Just some food for thought. H22 swaps are IMO the way to go if ultimate power is your key. But if 200hp at the flywheel is all you care about and you want great drivability a fully prepared F-series does appear to have some merits......
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Old Dec 7, 2002 | 08:36 PM
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the used h22a in my accord makes closer to 220hp with over 100,000 miles on it.


for a mild motor though i would take an F series any day....id boost on a stock block any time.
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Old Dec 7, 2002 | 11:55 PM
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Why build up an SOHC w/Vtec engine to make a little more hp than a DOHC with no mods. It has never made sense to me. Your gonna pay the same either way, so why not start out with something thats not maxed out like a turbo'd SOHC and start with a base DOHC. To build your F22A your looking at what 1500 in parts alone, and then another 1-2k for labor. A JDM H22A from Osakajdmotors is 1800.00. i would say do the H22A swap its cheaper and you get more bang for the buck in the long run.
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 09:50 AM
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Well if 200hp is your goal. A built F22/23 has some nice reliability and service advantages. Assuming your buildup was only mechanicals your engine would still be serviced by honda after all everything you had is still their. Trouble shooting of check lights in the future if they occur can be done by the service manual. In addition none of the stock harness needs to be touched in theory this just adds to long term reliabiltiy and security. If built properly you could sell your car and never admit the engine was touched as well. After all its easier to sell a stocker then a modified.
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 05:55 PM
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how will you get that much power without a lopey cam though?
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