Piecing together a Turbo
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Piecing together a Turbo
This will be the first time I will be with a turbo, my friend is a mechanic and he said that if I get all the necessary parts he would be able to put it on for me. Im thinking of using a setup similar to the Greddy Kit. Im thinking about boosting 8 Psi on a stock LS motor with 66k Miles on the Odometer. Please give me some cost effective recommendations on:
1) What brand of turbo? (Im thinking a t3/t4 is a decent size, fast spooling turbo).
2) What intercooler to use, I want the least modification to my bumper as possible to put it on. The intercolor comes with all the neccesary pipings to the turbo correct?
3) Manifold, which turbo header should I get?
4) BOV
5) FMU
6) Injectors
7) Downpipe (Size also, im not familar with downpiping sizes)
8) If there is anything else I am Missing please include it.
1) What brand of turbo? (Im thinking a t3/t4 is a decent size, fast spooling turbo).
2) What intercooler to use, I want the least modification to my bumper as possible to put it on. The intercolor comes with all the neccesary pipings to the turbo correct?
3) Manifold, which turbo header should I get?
4) BOV
5) FMU
6) Injectors
7) Downpipe (Size also, im not familar with downpiping sizes)
8) If there is anything else I am Missing please include it.
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Originally Posted by CiViC2nR86
This will be the first time I will be with a turbo, my friend is a mechanic and he said that if I get all the necessary parts he would be able to put it on for me. Im thinking of using a setup similar to the Greddy Kit. Im thinking about boosting 8 Psi on a stock LS motor with 66k Miles on the Odometer. Please give me some cost effective recommendations on:
1) What brand of turbo? (Im thinking a t3/t4 is a decent size, fast spooling turbo).
2) What intercooler to use, I want the least modification to my bumper as possible to put it on. The intercolor comes with all the neccesary pipings to the turbo correct?
3) Manifold, which turbo header should I get?
4) BOV
5) FMU
6) Injectors
7) Downpipe (Size also, im not familar with downpiping sizes)
8) If there is anything else I am Missing please include it.
1) What brand of turbo? (Im thinking a t3/t4 is a decent size, fast spooling turbo).
2) What intercooler to use, I want the least modification to my bumper as possible to put it on. The intercolor comes with all the neccesary pipings to the turbo correct?
3) Manifold, which turbo header should I get?
4) BOV
5) FMU
6) Injectors
7) Downpipe (Size also, im not familar with downpiping sizes)
8) If there is anything else I am Missing please include it.
1) T3/T4 hybrid is a good choice.
2) I had to do no modifications with the greddy intercooler. It will not come with all the piping. Just the piping to make a kit from non-intercooled to intercooled.
3) A log style manifold that will fit the turbo is fine.
4) I have the Greddy Type-S. A bit too chirpy for me. It was either that or the HKS SSQV. More expensive but worth it.
5) Hondata if you can afford it. FMU's suck but if you are low on cash it is a temporary fix. You will probably also need a MAP bypass to turn the CEL off.
6) 310cc is fine. You may want to go a bit higher if you desire.
7) 2.5" Downpiping is probably good. You also need to make sure it will fit the turbo.
8) Upgraded fuel pump if you so desire. Larger exhaust. Just a little food for thought.
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Originally Posted by CiViC2nR86
This will be the first time I will be with a turbo, my friend is a mechanic and he said that if I get all the necessary parts he would be able to put it on for me. Im thinking of using a setup similar to the Greddy Kit. Im thinking about boosting 8 Psi on a stock LS motor with 66k Miles on the Odometer. Please give me some cost effective recommendations on:
1) What brand of turbo? (Im thinking a t3/t4 is a decent size, fast spooling turbo).
2) What intercooler to use, I want the least modification to my bumper as possible to put it on. The intercolor comes with all the neccesary pipings to the turbo correct?
3) Manifold, which turbo header should I get?
4) BOV
5) FMU
6) Injectors
7) Downpipe (Size also, im not familar with downpiping sizes)
8) If there is anything else I am Missing please include it.
1) What brand of turbo? (Im thinking a t3/t4 is a decent size, fast spooling turbo).
2) What intercooler to use, I want the least modification to my bumper as possible to put it on. The intercolor comes with all the neccesary pipings to the turbo correct?
3) Manifold, which turbo header should I get?
4) BOV
5) FMU
6) Injectors
7) Downpipe (Size also, im not familar with downpiping sizes)
8) If there is anything else I am Missing please include it.
here is my opinion on what you should do:
1.T3/T04E
2. precisions are the best but spearco's are real close and a good price. you will need piping most is pretty easy to find for sale on hondatech
3. Inline pro hands down the best out there and you can even retain AC
4. anything that will hold the boost you plan to run
5.I had a cartech FMU that is adjustable like a fuel presure regulator. I went hondata and have it just laying here if you want to buy it.
6. injectors all depends on how you will control them. if you go with a FMU I would get 450's and an afc and a missing link( I actually have all those parts laying here now that I think about it) I ran 15psi on that set up and ran well. also go with a 255lph fuel pump.
7. any 2.5" DP will work fine but I recommend the inline pro
8. if you go hondata get some bigger injectors like 550's or 660's cause you can dial them back with the hondata far enough and will have enough fuel for later mods. on the set up with the FMU I ran you can run a lot more boost than 6-8 psi... on a good tune LS's in good shape will hold about 14psi or so...12psi on 93 octane pump gas shouldn't be an issue at all.
everything depends on the power you want to make and how much you want to spend.
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4,500, maybe I should just get a Rev Hard or a Greddy Kit and upgrade later on? The Rev Hard kit comes with everything, even intercooler. Is the Rev Hard kit pretty reliable?
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I have heard good things about the FMAX kit if you ditch the crappy FMU they give you and get hondata. I wouldn't know since I have the Greddy kit because I have to deal with smog.
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The powe output I am looking for is from 200-240 to the wheel, but I think around 200 because im only gonna be boosting 7-9 (stock motor). Price I want to spend is 3000 Max.
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Which kit is better and more complete, and what is each kit missing?
FMAX Integra Turbo Kits Include:
- T3/T04B Turbonetics Turbo
- Thermocoated Cast-Steel Turbo Manifold
- Thermocoated Mandrel-Bent Downpipe
- Turbonetics Evolution 35mm Wastegate
- Spearco W.A.V.E Front-Mount Intercooler
- MF2 ERL 3D Map Injector Controller
- MSD Boost Timing Manager (BTM)
- 440cc Lucas Fuel Injectors (2)
- Turbonetics Raptor Blow Off Valve (BOV)
- 2 Bar Map Sensor
- K&N Air Filter
- (1) Case TS-1 Synthetic Turbo Oil
- Install Instructions & Wiring Diagrams
- All Necessary Hardware & Fittings
Rev Hard Integra Turbo Kits Include:
- Rev Hard Cast Iron Manifold
- Rev Hard T3/T04E Turbo
- Spearco Intercooler 28" x 6.5 x 3"
- Tial 35MM Wastegate
- Vortech Blow Off Valve
- 2.25" Aluminized Mandrel Bent Piping
- 2.5" Downpipe
- Billet Map Diffuser (check valve)
- High Volume Fuel Pump
- Silicone Hoses & Clamps
- Steel Braided -3 Oil Line
- All Necessary Hardware & Fittings
Integra Extreme Turbo Kits Include:
- Garrett T25 Turbo w/ Wastegate
- Cast Exhaust Manifold
- Chrome Heat Shield
- Downpipe w/ Gasket
- Map Unit (Black Box)
- TSI Blow Off Valve (BOV)
- TSI High Flow Front-Mount Intercooler
- Polished Aluminum Intercooler Piping
- SS Braided lines for Water Cooling
- SS Braided lines for Oiling
- Return Hose and Fittings for Oil to Pan
- All Hoses & Clamps
- All Necessary Hardware & Fittings
- Generic Install Instructions
Fuel System Option 1:
- 2 Injectors & Interface Block
- TSI Injection Control Unit w/ Turbo Timer
- Injector Control System Settings
Fuel System Option 2:
- APEXi V-AFC II
- APEXi Turbo Timer
- Boost Gauge
Drag Integra Turbo Kits Include:
- Drag High flow Turbo manifold
- Turbonetics T4/T3 TO4E Turbo
- Mark II Wastegate (7 PSI Spring)
- Drag High Flow Front Mount Intercooler
- Blitz Blow-Off Valve (BOV)
- Drag High Flow Chrome Pipes
- Drag Mandrel Bent Down Pipe
- Drag Wastegate Dump Tube
- Drag Blue Silicone Hose & Clamps
- Drag High Volume Inline Fuel Pump
- Boost Dependent FMU Fuel Regulator
- Intake Air Filter Assembly
- Map Sensor Bypass Valves
- Stainless Steel Oil Feed Line
- Oil return assembly
- All necessary hardware and fittings
- All necessary hose and hose clamps
- All necessary gaskets
XS Integra Turbo Kits Include:
- Garrett GT Ball-Bearing Turbocharger
- XS Front Mount intercooler
- Durable High Temp Cast Manifold
- Stainless Steel Downpipe
- Low Turbulance Kevlar IC Plumbing
Optional Fuel System (+$1200)
- XS Pre-Tuned APEXi Power FC
- 540cc Injectors
- 255lph Fuel Pump
Max power: 237.2 whp @ 7000 RPM
Max torque: 190.1 lbs @ 5100 RPM
GReddy Integra Turbo Kits Include:
- Mitsubishi Spec TD05/06-18G Turbo
- GReddy Cast-Iron Manifolds
- GReddy Cast-Iron Downpipe
- GReddy Heat Shield
- Ext. Type T Wastegates
- GReddy Blue Box Piggyback
- (4) GReddy 310cc Injectors
- GReddy Airinx AY-SB
- All Necessary Piping
- All Necessary Hardware
Im leaning towards the Drag Turbo kit, and they all claim to be fully bolt on so I it should retain ac.
FMAX Integra Turbo Kits Include:
- T3/T04B Turbonetics Turbo
- Thermocoated Cast-Steel Turbo Manifold
- Thermocoated Mandrel-Bent Downpipe
- Turbonetics Evolution 35mm Wastegate
- Spearco W.A.V.E Front-Mount Intercooler
- MF2 ERL 3D Map Injector Controller
- MSD Boost Timing Manager (BTM)
- 440cc Lucas Fuel Injectors (2)
- Turbonetics Raptor Blow Off Valve (BOV)
- 2 Bar Map Sensor
- K&N Air Filter
- (1) Case TS-1 Synthetic Turbo Oil
- Install Instructions & Wiring Diagrams
- All Necessary Hardware & Fittings
Rev Hard Integra Turbo Kits Include:
- Rev Hard Cast Iron Manifold
- Rev Hard T3/T04E Turbo
- Spearco Intercooler 28" x 6.5 x 3"
- Tial 35MM Wastegate
- Vortech Blow Off Valve
- 2.25" Aluminized Mandrel Bent Piping
- 2.5" Downpipe
- Billet Map Diffuser (check valve)
- High Volume Fuel Pump
- Silicone Hoses & Clamps
- Steel Braided -3 Oil Line
- All Necessary Hardware & Fittings
Integra Extreme Turbo Kits Include:
- Garrett T25 Turbo w/ Wastegate
- Cast Exhaust Manifold
- Chrome Heat Shield
- Downpipe w/ Gasket
- Map Unit (Black Box)
- TSI Blow Off Valve (BOV)
- TSI High Flow Front-Mount Intercooler
- Polished Aluminum Intercooler Piping
- SS Braided lines for Water Cooling
- SS Braided lines for Oiling
- Return Hose and Fittings for Oil to Pan
- All Hoses & Clamps
- All Necessary Hardware & Fittings
- Generic Install Instructions
Fuel System Option 1:
- 2 Injectors & Interface Block
- TSI Injection Control Unit w/ Turbo Timer
- Injector Control System Settings
Fuel System Option 2:
- APEXi V-AFC II
- APEXi Turbo Timer
- Boost Gauge
Drag Integra Turbo Kits Include:
- Drag High flow Turbo manifold
- Turbonetics T4/T3 TO4E Turbo
- Mark II Wastegate (7 PSI Spring)
- Drag High Flow Front Mount Intercooler
- Blitz Blow-Off Valve (BOV)
- Drag High Flow Chrome Pipes
- Drag Mandrel Bent Down Pipe
- Drag Wastegate Dump Tube
- Drag Blue Silicone Hose & Clamps
- Drag High Volume Inline Fuel Pump
- Boost Dependent FMU Fuel Regulator
- Intake Air Filter Assembly
- Map Sensor Bypass Valves
- Stainless Steel Oil Feed Line
- Oil return assembly
- All necessary hardware and fittings
- All necessary hose and hose clamps
- All necessary gaskets
XS Integra Turbo Kits Include:
- Garrett GT Ball-Bearing Turbocharger
- XS Front Mount intercooler
- Durable High Temp Cast Manifold
- Stainless Steel Downpipe
- Low Turbulance Kevlar IC Plumbing
Optional Fuel System (+$1200)
- XS Pre-Tuned APEXi Power FC
- 540cc Injectors
- 255lph Fuel Pump
Max power: 237.2 whp @ 7000 RPM
Max torque: 190.1 lbs @ 5100 RPM
GReddy Integra Turbo Kits Include:
- Mitsubishi Spec TD05/06-18G Turbo
- GReddy Cast-Iron Manifolds
- GReddy Cast-Iron Downpipe
- GReddy Heat Shield
- Ext. Type T Wastegates
- GReddy Blue Box Piggyback
- (4) GReddy 310cc Injectors
- GReddy Airinx AY-SB
- All Necessary Piping
- All Necessary Hardware
Im leaning towards the Drag Turbo kit, and they all claim to be fully bolt on so I it should retain ac.
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Originally Posted by CiViC2nR86
Which kit is better and more complete, and what is each kit missing?
FMAX Integra Turbo Kits Include:
- T3/T04B Turbonetics Turbo
- Thermocoated Cast-Steel Turbo Manifold
- Thermocoated Mandrel-Bent Downpipe
- Turbonetics Evolution 35mm Wastegate
- Spearco W.A.V.E Front-Mount Intercooler
- MF2 ERL 3D Map Injector Controller
- MSD Boost Timing Manager (BTM)
- 440cc Lucas Fuel Injectors (2)
- Turbonetics Raptor Blow Off Valve (BOV)
- 2 Bar Map Sensor
- K&N Air Filter
- (1) Case TS-1 Synthetic Turbo Oil
- Install Instructions & Wiring Diagrams
- All Necessary Hardware & Fittings
Rev Hard Integra Turbo Kits Include:
- Rev Hard Cast Iron Manifold
- Rev Hard T3/T04E Turbo
- Spearco Intercooler 28" x 6.5 x 3"
- Tial 35MM Wastegate
- Vortech Blow Off Valve
- 2.25" Aluminized Mandrel Bent Piping
- 2.5" Downpipe
- Billet Map Diffuser (check valve)
- High Volume Fuel Pump
- Silicone Hoses & Clamps
- Steel Braided -3 Oil Line
- All Necessary Hardware & Fittings
Integra Extreme Turbo Kits Include:
- Garrett T25 Turbo w/ Wastegate
- Cast Exhaust Manifold
- Chrome Heat Shield
- Downpipe w/ Gasket
- Map Unit (Black Box)
- TSI Blow Off Valve (BOV)
- TSI High Flow Front-Mount Intercooler
- Polished Aluminum Intercooler Piping
- SS Braided lines for Water Cooling
- SS Braided lines for Oiling
- Return Hose and Fittings for Oil to Pan
- All Hoses & Clamps
- All Necessary Hardware & Fittings
- Generic Install Instructions
Fuel System Option 1:
- 2 Injectors & Interface Block
- TSI Injection Control Unit w/ Turbo Timer
- Injector Control System Settings
Fuel System Option 2:
- APEXi V-AFC II
- APEXi Turbo Timer
- Boost Gauge
Drag Integra Turbo Kits Include:
- Drag High flow Turbo manifold
- Turbonetics T4/T3 TO4E Turbo
- Mark II Wastegate (7 PSI Spring)
- Drag High Flow Front Mount Intercooler
- Blitz Blow-Off Valve (BOV)
- Drag High Flow Chrome Pipes
- Drag Mandrel Bent Down Pipe
- Drag Wastegate Dump Tube
- Drag Blue Silicone Hose & Clamps
- Drag High Volume Inline Fuel Pump
- Boost Dependent FMU Fuel Regulator
- Intake Air Filter Assembly
- Map Sensor Bypass Valves
- Stainless Steel Oil Feed Line
- Oil return assembly
- All necessary hardware and fittings
- All necessary hose and hose clamps
- All necessary gaskets
XS Integra Turbo Kits Include:
- Garrett GT Ball-Bearing Turbocharger
- XS Front Mount intercooler
- Durable High Temp Cast Manifold
- Stainless Steel Downpipe
- Low Turbulance Kevlar IC Plumbing
Optional Fuel System (+$1200)
- XS Pre-Tuned APEXi Power FC
- 540cc Injectors
- 255lph Fuel Pump
Max power: 237.2 whp @ 7000 RPM
Max torque: 190.1 lbs @ 5100 RPM
GReddy Integra Turbo Kits Include:
- Mitsubishi Spec TD05/06-18G Turbo
- GReddy Cast-Iron Manifolds
- GReddy Cast-Iron Downpipe
- GReddy Heat Shield
- Ext. Type T Wastegates
- GReddy Blue Box Piggyback
- (4) GReddy 310cc Injectors
- GReddy Airinx AY-SB
- All Necessary Piping
- All Necessary Hardware
Im leaning towards the Drag Turbo kit, and they all claim to be fully bolt on so I it should retain ac.
FMAX Integra Turbo Kits Include:
- T3/T04B Turbonetics Turbo
- Thermocoated Cast-Steel Turbo Manifold
- Thermocoated Mandrel-Bent Downpipe
- Turbonetics Evolution 35mm Wastegate
- Spearco W.A.V.E Front-Mount Intercooler
- MF2 ERL 3D Map Injector Controller
- MSD Boost Timing Manager (BTM)
- 440cc Lucas Fuel Injectors (2)
- Turbonetics Raptor Blow Off Valve (BOV)
- 2 Bar Map Sensor
- K&N Air Filter
- (1) Case TS-1 Synthetic Turbo Oil
- Install Instructions & Wiring Diagrams
- All Necessary Hardware & Fittings
Rev Hard Integra Turbo Kits Include:
- Rev Hard Cast Iron Manifold
- Rev Hard T3/T04E Turbo
- Spearco Intercooler 28" x 6.5 x 3"
- Tial 35MM Wastegate
- Vortech Blow Off Valve
- 2.25" Aluminized Mandrel Bent Piping
- 2.5" Downpipe
- Billet Map Diffuser (check valve)
- High Volume Fuel Pump
- Silicone Hoses & Clamps
- Steel Braided -3 Oil Line
- All Necessary Hardware & Fittings
Integra Extreme Turbo Kits Include:
- Garrett T25 Turbo w/ Wastegate
- Cast Exhaust Manifold
- Chrome Heat Shield
- Downpipe w/ Gasket
- Map Unit (Black Box)
- TSI Blow Off Valve (BOV)
- TSI High Flow Front-Mount Intercooler
- Polished Aluminum Intercooler Piping
- SS Braided lines for Water Cooling
- SS Braided lines for Oiling
- Return Hose and Fittings for Oil to Pan
- All Hoses & Clamps
- All Necessary Hardware & Fittings
- Generic Install Instructions
Fuel System Option 1:
- 2 Injectors & Interface Block
- TSI Injection Control Unit w/ Turbo Timer
- Injector Control System Settings
Fuel System Option 2:
- APEXi V-AFC II
- APEXi Turbo Timer
- Boost Gauge
Drag Integra Turbo Kits Include:
- Drag High flow Turbo manifold
- Turbonetics T4/T3 TO4E Turbo
- Mark II Wastegate (7 PSI Spring)
- Drag High Flow Front Mount Intercooler
- Blitz Blow-Off Valve (BOV)
- Drag High Flow Chrome Pipes
- Drag Mandrel Bent Down Pipe
- Drag Wastegate Dump Tube
- Drag Blue Silicone Hose & Clamps
- Drag High Volume Inline Fuel Pump
- Boost Dependent FMU Fuel Regulator
- Intake Air Filter Assembly
- Map Sensor Bypass Valves
- Stainless Steel Oil Feed Line
- Oil return assembly
- All necessary hardware and fittings
- All necessary hose and hose clamps
- All necessary gaskets
XS Integra Turbo Kits Include:
- Garrett GT Ball-Bearing Turbocharger
- XS Front Mount intercooler
- Durable High Temp Cast Manifold
- Stainless Steel Downpipe
- Low Turbulance Kevlar IC Plumbing
Optional Fuel System (+$1200)
- XS Pre-Tuned APEXi Power FC
- 540cc Injectors
- 255lph Fuel Pump
Max power: 237.2 whp @ 7000 RPM
Max torque: 190.1 lbs @ 5100 RPM
GReddy Integra Turbo Kits Include:
- Mitsubishi Spec TD05/06-18G Turbo
- GReddy Cast-Iron Manifolds
- GReddy Cast-Iron Downpipe
- GReddy Heat Shield
- Ext. Type T Wastegates
- GReddy Blue Box Piggyback
- (4) GReddy 310cc Injectors
- GReddy Airinx AY-SB
- All Necessary Piping
- All Necessary Hardware
Im leaning towards the Drag Turbo kit, and they all claim to be fully bolt on so I it should retain ac.
drag manifolds are junk and tend to creep. revhard is the best bet. the Fmax is junk(just a bunch of bandaids) the XS kit is nice but the turbo is way small and same with the TSI kit. Greddy kit also will get you to your power goals pretty easily