Ok, I useto have a 92 Lude with 2.3 H23, LOVED it, and then it cracked and died so I sold it. I recently bought a 94 Civic Ex, 122k, and a D16Z6, slow.....

I want all the info I can get on swaps, the best engine to swap and how involved it can get. I am on a buget, 1200, and I can sell whatever I replace so ......

Whats my best bet? Also Will the H22 or 23 fit ? I know the weight difference is a problem, but front suspention can be upgraded....

Tell me all you know! I want to do this swap over the summer.!

 

any B series...but since you got a 1200 budget...you might find a b16 for that price...H22 will fit in there but will need a HAsport mount kit for H22 swap...

 

1200 isnt enough to get the full swap though. U might be able to get the SIR-I but you would also need the cable to tranny kit. So you might want to do the SIR-II but thats goin to run you around 2.5K shipped. In my opinion with an h22 you'll get a lot of power stock. But you could spend as much on a h22 swap on a b series swap and spend the difference between the two and get more power out of the B series motor than the h22.

Go with a B Series motor. Easier and has a bit more potential in an EG than the H22. * in my opinion at least.Then again with the right $$$ u can get more power with an H in an EG but...like i said...$$$*

 

Ok,... you answered one question, but here is another thing. I am planning on geting the motor and sticking it in the garage and drive my civic with the D16 this summer, and build on the one in the garage. Slowly build the motor untill this winter. That way im not on a budget, and I can spend a little every payday.

With that in mind what do you think? H or B? Also why is the B20 so much cheaper than the other B series motors? I found an import B20 for 600$ it only had 30k. ? Is the B20 not that great or what?

 

i would go with a b18c1. and if your going to build it, build it for turbo. as for the b20- the b20 does not have vtec, and i think it has a very low compression ratio, like 8.5:1 but i could be wrong about that. if a b18c1 is a little to much, do to the b18b, it doesnt have vtec, but it will be a torque monster when turbod. there are other people on this forum with ALOT of knowledge on turbod b-series motors. like WestCoastStyle. he has a killer setup. if money does end up getting tight, why not just build your d16z6. it may not be DOHC, but it can deffinitly hold its own. if you want to know more about that, try turbod16.com and sohchonda.com. there are people at these sites running in the 13's and 1 guy in the 12's with a stock bottom end. of course they tuned VERY carefully, but its possible. and as for the b16, i wouldnt recommend it. yes, it is a cool motor, but what you spend on the SiR II you could easily make a respectable setup with your d16. that is just my .02. due with it what you please

 

hmm...... I thought about turboing a B series or even my D16, but for what I spend on a turbo setup I could spend on a H23 Swap.... I think I will Build up my D16 this summer, machine work and stuff like that, and if I still dont like it, then I will sell it and swap it for a B18..... Thanks for the info and if anyone has anything more to tell me that would be great, I am still researching and reading up on everything to get all the info possible.

 

H22As are actually about the same price as B16As, but require about $500 in extra parts to make it work (all from HASport). For your budget, you're not gonna accomplish much. I'd save up a bit more and go for that H-series if you like it so much. You're never gonna get that kinda torque out of a B-series, mod-for-mod... driving a torquey car is much more rewarding than one that needs to have the snot revved out of it in order to move. As long as you're not a serious autocrosser, you wont have problems with the extra weight (in fact, progress makes custom springs for H-swapped civics)

 

i couldnt agree more. not to mention your gas mileage will suck and i have heard of people geting some mad amount over understeer with that heavy of an engine

 

umm... yeah, without the correct weight reduction and springs/shocks you will have a crappy time in the turns, I had a 92 prelude that had springs so tight that you could mesure the ride height, put 1450 lbs in the car ( or 4 full grown adults) and the ride height would not change, take it for a drive with just me in the drivers seat, and its bumpy and ruff as all hell (which i dont mind). Load the car down with me and 2 friends (500lbs) and it would drive nice and smooth. It all realy depends on the suspension when it comes to engine swaps. I have a feeling I am going to call around to find a h22 or 23 block that has a head on it and buy that, put it on a stand and build a little every month. I will post pics and updates! Thats the cheapes way I can think of, and that way it will only take me 2 or 3 days to do the swap, and for now I can drive my car and save on gas.

P.S. my h23 in my prelude got better gas mileage than my d16z6 gets..........