Here is my set up:

b16a2 w/ctr pistons, p&p&milled head, 12:1 compression, i/h/e, cam gears, fpr.

Here is my plan:

Convert to obd1 and use a vafc for tuning. Raise redline to 9k, and slap in some ctr cams.

Here is my problem:

I don't know what program to get, or who to get it from. I don't want to get a shitty ebay ecu that will ignore my knock sensor, or anything crazy like that. I just want to get a simple p28 ecu with a raised rev limiter, and tune it with a vafc.

One day I may get a Hondata s200, or something else, but not right now.

If anyone knows where I can get an ecu like I described, please let me know.

 

You're local to me, what kind of car to do you have? If you're running an OBD-0 or OBD-1 I can chip your ECU for pretty cheap, and get you close to what yo're shooting for. I'm guessing you're either OBD-2 or OBD-0. Give us some more info either way. You can hit me up on PM's here, AIM, or at CarolinaHondas.com(if you didn't know they exist).

 

Well, the P28 lacks knock board circuitry, so that is right out of the equation. The stock KS is not like the KS on a DSM or suby, it's really just a safeguard against shitty US gas.

I also would not reccomend tuning on the fly with the AFC, the AFC in general operation advances timing. Remember it is an Air Flow Controller, not an Air/Fuel Controller

I have several customers running all-motor B16 programs, some with internals, shoot me a PM, we'll talk.
-PHiZ

 

Well first of all, the CTR cams will not make power up to 9K RPMs. Second, I'd suggest some Skunk2 stage 1s instead. They make real nice power on b16s, and you can keep your stock valvetrain if you want.

 

Sorry guys i was out of town.



I have a 99 Civic Si so I'm OBD-2, but I am planning on running OBD-1, I just don't know which ECU to get.

 

What do you mean by "tuning on the fly?" And these all-motor B16 programs, what ecu are they on?

I'm going to use the V-AFC anyway for two reasons. First of all, its better than just a fpr, and second I just bought one today.

 

Are you sure? qtiger, I know you are a smart guy so don't think that I'm saying you are wrong, but I've heard from many people that CTR cams can make power up to 9K. Again, this is not from my personal experience, I am just repeating what I have read and have been told. BTW, when I had my head ported and polished I installed Farrea(?) valves, valve springs and retainers, all titanium (except maybe the valves, I don't remember). So my engine is ready for some cams but my wallet isn't.

But even if I buy a set of CTR's, I can always just sell 'em and get some nice skunk2 stage2's, especially if I get the CTR's used.

 

They can rev to 9K, but they'll stop making more power before 8.5K. Generally they just taper off like so, shown here in red:



Same deal here. Red again.






Now, CTR cams are an excellent value for money, and make very, very nice midrange power. But if it's peak numbers or high revs you're looking for, look elsewhere.

 

Better than a lot of cams that peak at 7k I suppose.

And you have to understand how the AFC actually functions, it's ugly man, with a program that has been massaged to coax as much power out of the motor as it can, adjusting it with an AFC is going to be dodgy...

-PHiZ

 

It won't be that bad, will it? It will have to do for now. I wanted to get Hondata but the every shop around here that will tune with it requires that I provide the laptop and chip burner, so until they provide those I'm stuck with the V-AFC.