I'll have to see once I use these bulbs for a little. Doesn't seem to affect anything yet, so I'll keep my fingers crossed.

 

perhaps he was talking about the glare that the opposing traffic would experience because of the extra output of light?...i've heard that since the stock housings weren't created with the intention of directing the output of HID's they spread the light more than they should, creating glare for the opposing traffic....that's the rumor i've heard...not sure of the validity of it...since there were only two bulbs included i would assume that they take the place of the high beams?...i assuming this is true, the HID's wouldn't even be seen by opposing traffic because it's just rude to high beam people...that's my 2 cents...looks great though, and i'm half tempted to buy myself a set!

 

I have never heard of Integra housings needing retrofiting because of glare. They are pointed downwards so they don't glare much at all. The high beams will glare and you can tell the difference. I know that the civic housings need to be retrofited because they are reflector housings and they will scatter the light and glare like no other. The HIDs on the integra look like brighter halogens since they are already built like a projector in the first place.

They do have bi-xenon HID sets that replace both the low and high beam. I just replaced the low beam and my high beam is still 9005 halogen.

Unless oncoming traffic is about 3 feet tall, they won't get any glare whatsoever.

 

I will like to confirm that HID's do produce glare, but definitely close to none on halogen projectors. Many other customers have purchased these kits and there is close to no glare for oncoming traffic. As for reflector-based housings, glare can be SIGNIFICANTLY reduced if the beams are pointed slightly downwards of about 5 degrees. Still great visibility without glare :thumbup:. If you are worried about your stock harness, you can make your own wire harness + relay. This is just to insure your wiring safety. You can find these all over hidplanet.com. Purchasing them would be about $30-50, depending on which store you look at. Make one yourself, IMO it's funner and you get more out of it.

Any questions, let me know!

Peace!

 

HID kits are illegal do to the glare that they cause. Glare is Light that is emitted in a Uncontrollable path. When light is traveling in a uncontrollable path it can hit other vehicle operators affecting there vision because of the High amount of uncontrollable light that is being Emitted from a HID kit in a standard Halogen housing. If you have ever turned a flashlight on right in front of your face while it is dark out, that is the same feeling that the other drivers on the road experience from a standard HID kit.

OEM Vehicles such as Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Lexus are all equipped with HID or Xenon Headlights. Some use reflector housing’s without projectors. Others use HID projectors.

The Lexus IS300 is a Prime Example of a HID reflector housing. It does not use a Projector. It uses a Specially designed Reflector housing that is meant to use HID. This does not create the Super sharp cutoff. But it does control where the light is being Emitted.

Other vehicles such as the Honda S2000 Use HID projectors, These Projectors are meant to use HID. They are Specially Designed and have been tested Hundreds of times to get the right projection of light while maintaining a Good Cutoff.


Here are pictures of Halogen housings mated with a HID kit


9006 6000k HID Kit... mad glare


This teg is a prime example of Glare. This is what it looks like to oncoming traffic


Disaster pix. HID kit in Halogen Housing




NOW THE GOOD SHIT..lol

This is what HID is suppose to look like.. Pictured is a STi


Talk about a Razor Sharp Cutoff. Pictured is a S2000 OEM setup


another S2000 Retrofit… YUMMY

Article stating why the kits are illegal.
http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/rulings/glare.html

Comparison.. Pictured is a Acura TL-S with HID from the factory vs H4 6000K civic
See the difference?






Its not just honda's either. Here is a mid 90's Lexus with a HID kit..

To date, NHTSA has investigated 24 HID conversion kit suppliers; all investigations have resulted in recalls or termination of sales.

RM Racing
Astex USA
Kmax International
FET, Inc.
J. Liu LLC
Gourmet Garage
JC Whitney
Lighting Research
SPW Industries, Inc.
Pacific Micro-lite
McCulloch Motors, Inc.
Santeca Electronics
JF Manufacturing
Streetglow, Inc.
Outback Products, Inc.
Nu Performance
GR Motorsports, Inc.
Global Premier
New Clor
Importhookup.com
DG International
MTC Lighting
Umnitza
Liteglow
American Products Company

 

Everyone knows that aftermarket HID kits emit glare, but the fact is that this "glare" hardly attracts any attention from oncoming traffic, let alone look like any of the pictures you posted above JDM. Of course the S2000 and STI have nice cutoffs, they got projectors... aftermarket HID kits are a cheaper alternative than spending more to get a retrofit done.

I understand your concern for glare, but have you ever seen oncoming projector HID's on a hill-side road? Since you're complaining about the lights being too bright for oncoming traffic, when a BMW or so is going uphill and then levels off, the HID's are brightening! Although the cutoff doesn't allow glare, on misshapen roads, HID's are just as distracting as HID kit, probably even more distracting.

Glare can be controlled by aiming your headlights.


*Edit: Compare JDM's pictures to Shmoo's pictures. The wallshots are completely different and SHmoo has almost no glare.

 

I appreciate the great information and it is very helpful. I now understand glare.

Considering I am using the stock housings (which were never designed for HID lighting), the glare isn't too bad. And I am not worrying because I have tons of illegal parts under my hood, so what difference would some illegal lights make?

 

shmoo,

did you change a higher fuse (15amp) on he headlights. If you didn't change the fuse, do you see any problem to turn the lights on?

thanks

 

No, I didn't change the fuse at all. But I haven't noticed any problems. I should probably think about upgrading the fuse or making a relay to handle the extra power.

 

Shmoo,

I don't think you want to upgrade your fuses. If the kit can be used without upgrading the fuses, you don't even need to get the extra wire hardness to get power from the battery.