6th generation (98-02) Accords shared the same chassis with the Acura CL, TL, CL Type S, and TL Type S. Therefore some suspension components were interchangeable, such as sway bars, strut bars, and springs (not for I4 Accords since the front end was much lighter).

The J30A1 was the engine in the 6th gen Accord V6, while the J32A1 was in the TL/CL, and the J32A2 was in the TL-S/CL-S. If you browse the v6performance.net boards, you will find that a lot of AV6 owners feel that their Auto trannies suck (there was no manual tranny available). It is also possible to swap in a 6-spd tranny and/or the J32A2 from a CL-S/TL-S into an AV6.


If the next generation of the CL/TL uses the new 7th gen Accord chassis, then would stuff like what I said above be possible?

BTW, http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/f...05ht_comptech/

 

That's, um, quite the tangent.

 

 

He owns a 7th gen Accord.

 

I was just explaining some of the stuff about the 6th gens, and how it may be the same story for the 7th gens in the future.

 

well yes, but a worthwhile one(I learned something). On every board there is the guy that has been around for so long that he has seen just about every post there is and he gets bored of just providing the same info over and over. Instead critiquing what other people say and finding every fault in a post because much more fulfilling.

So the J32 blocks, do they get the extra displacement from stroke or bore(or both). What internals do they share with the J30 counterparts? Does the head bolt up to the J30(doubt it, but who knows)?

Also is their an official honda shop manual I can get my hands on for this car? Has anyone put one up on the internet yet? I would really like to take apart my engine and tranny to see how honda does it versus my old school pushrod SBC I am used to working on. I do not anticipate this car breaking anything big for atleast 200k so I will not get to take her apart for a long long time and I can just live vicariously through the shop manual.

 

I believe TL-S/CL-S head swaps have been performed on the J30A1.

remember, you have a new 7th gen's J30A2 which is different than the 6th gen's J30A1, so I doubt you would want to pull stuff from the current Acura J32A2.

I think your source for parts would come from the next gen CL-S/TL-S just like it was for our 6th gens with the current CL-S/TL-S?

BTW, check out helminc.com for service manuals.

also, check out v6performance.net, and comptechusa.com.

 

Sorry, I was not trying to critique. I just thought that it had been gone over in the thread previously, but looking back it hadn't.

The J32A2 head does surprisingly bolt to the J30A1. I learned that last week. But I'm not sure if it will bolt to the J30A2 and it certainly wouldn't be worth it, as there's only a 20 horsepower difference to begin with and you wouldn't be getting much of that back.

The J30's bore x stroke is 86.0 x 86.0, while the J32 is 89 x 86 if I remember correctly. So it's bored out a bit.

Go look in the Hybrid forum for shop manuals...there is a guy that posts them there, he may have posted one already or maybe you can ask him to.

One more thing: Don't put your chips on putting engine mods from the next CL-S/TL-S onto your engine. For one thing, the CL has been discontinued and if it shows up again it won't be till 2005. The second thing is that the TL-S has a very good chance of getting some sort of IMA drivetrain (Integrated Motor Assist) to make it quasi AWD, with the back wheels driven by electric motors and the fronts by a gas engine or perhaps the gas and electric motor driving all four wheels.

 

that is interesting stuff. I would not even look at other cars when car shoping if honda/acura would make more RWD/AWD platforms. I probibly will never touch my engine as far as swaps go, I am was just curious. I seriously might do a NO2 low power shot if I can figure out how not to lean out the mixture, or later a SC, but only if i can get into that ECM and figure out what it is thinking.

 

Yeah, with all the power Honda is making from their V6's they need to go AWD to avoid torque steer. They won't go RWD.