My HID's are in! pics!
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From: Souf Central KS Yo!
It took me 30 minutes to install my new HID kit.... 30 minutes! for a amateaur!! it woulda been 15 if i didn't have to take out my battery and washer fluid bay. HIDs were ment to be easy installs, PLUG AND PLAY. only a total goof can't pull it off.
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From: Erie, PA
i agree that he should have been a little more modest about it all and i agree that he was a bit of an ass, but i think his whole dissertation was actually quite educational. i'd like to eventually get a HID system for my car, and the stuff he spoke of is good to know so that i don't go off and get a HID kit without knowing everything i should know. i think the fact that he went off on poison was inconsiderate, definitely. poison was telling us about her mod which we should give her props for regardless of our own opinions. i think they're nice; i don't know much about lighting or cars to be frank, but it is good to know that i can learn more stuff from boards from people that may not know as much as other people, but still more than i.
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From: Hacienda Heights, S. Cali
in illusion's defense, he's just trying to provide information (and very damn good and accurate information at that) to everybody that a direct retrofit HID kit into a stock halogen refractor is illegal and will mess up your beam pattern. perfection is his thing and he might have been rude in presenting it, but in the attitude that poysonivee was presenting her catz kit as it was the best thing in the world, i think illusion has reason to be irritated because he knows that a real HID system can't use stock halogen refractors.
furthermore, everybody should give poysonivee the credit she deserves for actually being one of the first (or the first) to have HIDs on a 7th gen accord. it looks damn good, it is a VERY nice kit, and most importantly of all that she's happy with it, even if it does have a bit of refracting light off on the side.
personally, i will never bother with projectors or all that other expensive modifications and i'll just plug in a ballast and HID set into my stock refractors. bag on me all you want for that, but it's better than what i'm doing right now because i get high-beamed ALL THE TIME (like every 1 of 3 trips i take my car out at night). I might as well drive with a floodlight strapped to my car. i put so much lighting on my car because i have to see every bump in the road. if you understood the bad luck i go through with potholes, trash, and roadkill on the freeway, you would like to light up the night as if it were day too.
for the newbies seeking information on this board, read more and talk less. though we don't have as indepth technical talk as AV6.com, we still have a good number of members with information you want and need.
furthermore, everybody should give poysonivee the credit she deserves for actually being one of the first (or the first) to have HIDs on a 7th gen accord. it looks damn good, it is a VERY nice kit, and most importantly of all that she's happy with it, even if it does have a bit of refracting light off on the side.
personally, i will never bother with projectors or all that other expensive modifications and i'll just plug in a ballast and HID set into my stock refractors. bag on me all you want for that, but it's better than what i'm doing right now because i get high-beamed ALL THE TIME (like every 1 of 3 trips i take my car out at night). I might as well drive with a floodlight strapped to my car. i put so much lighting on my car because i have to see every bump in the road. if you understood the bad luck i go through with potholes, trash, and roadkill on the freeway, you would like to light up the night as if it were day too.
for the newbies seeking information on this board, read more and talk less. though we don't have as indepth technical talk as AV6.com, we still have a good number of members with information you want and need.
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Re: Re: I agree with Poysonivee
Originally posted by dlee27
Please provide proof of this statement and the law. I heard Europe has similar law but never heard of US law. As I posted earlier there're factory HIDs without self-leveling system. Thanks.
Please provide proof of this statement and the law. I heard Europe has similar law but never heard of US law. As I posted earlier there're factory HIDs without self-leveling system. Thanks.
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From: LI, NY
here let me both summarize and contirbute what I know.
I have read the entire thread. I own an ebay kit in my stock housings. they are better than stock which I think was poysonivee's point. but they do not in anyway copmpare to OEM kits which is illusion correct point.
All HID kits that weren't made by the factory are illegal, some are just less illegal. All lighting needs to be DOT approved. The HID's in a reflector housing are obviously worse than what see-fu/illusion's ideal method and more likely to be noticed and more annoying. However, what illusion/see-fu propose is illegal for the simple fact that the product was not intended for use on such cars in the US by the DOT and they aren't likely to be ticketed and will get better lighting.
As repeated above, YOU DON'T NEED SELF LEVELING IN AMERICA FOR HIDS. Acura's, Lincoln's, nissans, the chrysler's are all examples. On the autobahn they must be self leveling.
Illusion stated facts......there was little opinion. Facts are harsh sometimes. get used to it...and learn that there is always someone that will know more than you. A wise man listens to instruction.
Poysonivee, welcome to the accord club. Installing HID's is really easy. About as hard as changing a lightbulb. Too bad you din't DIY, but atleast you din't pay for it either. On of the joys of modding a car is being able to do stuff yourself. So don't be afraid. Just get good directions, the right tools and some help and try. But know when to stop when you find that you really are in over your head.
DO NOT USE THIS FORUM FOR NAME CALLING!
noel
I have read the entire thread. I own an ebay kit in my stock housings. they are better than stock which I think was poysonivee's point. but they do not in anyway copmpare to OEM kits which is illusion correct point.
All HID kits that weren't made by the factory are illegal, some are just less illegal. All lighting needs to be DOT approved. The HID's in a reflector housing are obviously worse than what see-fu/illusion's ideal method and more likely to be noticed and more annoying. However, what illusion/see-fu propose is illegal for the simple fact that the product was not intended for use on such cars in the US by the DOT and they aren't likely to be ticketed and will get better lighting.
As repeated above, YOU DON'T NEED SELF LEVELING IN AMERICA FOR HIDS. Acura's, Lincoln's, nissans, the chrysler's are all examples. On the autobahn they must be self leveling.
Illusion stated facts......there was little opinion. Facts are harsh sometimes. get used to it...and learn that there is always someone that will know more than you. A wise man listens to instruction.
Poysonivee, welcome to the accord club. Installing HID's is really easy. About as hard as changing a lightbulb. Too bad you din't DIY, but atleast you din't pay for it either. On of the joys of modding a car is being able to do stuff yourself. So don't be afraid. Just get good directions, the right tools and some help and try. But know when to stop when you find that you really are in over your head.
DO NOT USE THIS FORUM FOR NAME CALLING!
noel
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I spent a loooooooong time cleaning this thread up, so if the BS that went on happens again, I will not be a happy man, so keep it clean, watch the flames, and dont try and state opinion as fact.
The only thing I wanted to add was already stated by Noel, projector retrofits are no more legal than the reflector kits for the reasons he stated below. The individual parts, casing, projectors etc are, but when combined thats a different story.
Also all OEM HID's are not self leveling; check my sig for an example of one such OEM system.
The only thing I wanted to add was already stated by Noel, projector retrofits are no more legal than the reflector kits for the reasons he stated below. The individual parts, casing, projectors etc are, but when combined thats a different story.
Also all OEM HID's are not self leveling; check my sig for an example of one such OEM system.
Originally posted by vtecinside
All HID kits that weren't made by the factory are illegal, some are just less illegal. All lighting needs to be DOT approved. The HID's in a reflector housing are obviously worse than what see-fu/illusion's ideal method and more likely to be noticed and more annoying. However, what illusion/see-fu propose is illegal for the simple fact that the product was not intended for use on such cars in the US by the DOT and they aren't likely to be ticketed
As repeated above, YOU DON'T NEED SELF LEVELING IN AMERICA FOR HIDS. Acura's, Lincoln's, nissans, the chrysler's are all examples. On the autobahn they must be self leveling.
noel
All HID kits that weren't made by the factory are illegal, some are just less illegal. All lighting needs to be DOT approved. The HID's in a reflector housing are obviously worse than what see-fu/illusion's ideal method and more likely to be noticed and more annoying. However, what illusion/see-fu propose is illegal for the simple fact that the product was not intended for use on such cars in the US by the DOT and they aren't likely to be ticketed
As repeated above, YOU DON'T NEED SELF LEVELING IN AMERICA FOR HIDS. Acura's, Lincoln's, nissans, the chrysler's are all examples. On the autobahn they must be self leveling.
noel
