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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 07:38 AM
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ok, i know nothing about cars. but i have a friend at work, that is helping me with fixing it up. we put an new air intake in....and i have an extra $600 right now. i asked him what i should do next, (my goal, is to make my car look nice, but first make it faster than most everyone else...within reason) he said that i should get an intake manifold, large bore throttle body, and valve cover....in that order. and that i should get fuel injector fluid now. does this sound like we're doing this right?? and if so, where can i get these things for less than the normal price??

oh, i have a 2002 honda accord 3.0
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 07:49 AM
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wtf are valve covers going to do for you??

and faster than everyone else?? sorry, but you're starting with the wrong car... if you want fast, get a fast car... a honda accord is a well rounded family sedan for the most part. I do love hondas, but I also know their limitations.
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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Umm.. yeah. An Accord faster than everyone else or other Accords? There would definitely be a difference.

Accords have an awesome platform to work with but it's an all or nothing type of thing. You would probably be looking at $1500-$2000 minimum to even begin to get started and get any sort of real "power" increase out of an Accord. But you can start with some basics like intake, cat. back, header. And we're talking about doing things right, not just slapping on a turbo or a nitrous kit and then talking smack about how bad your Accord is.

Did you mean bigger fuel injectors to go along with your bigger throttle body or did you actually mean fuel injector fluid? If so, what is fluid going to do to make you faster? And valve covers? I'm sorry. That has to do with looks and not anything to do with power, and there's not point even for the sake of looks.

Before you go suppin' up your Accord... Take a smart approach and look at what you can do to get the most HP for the buck. If you're going to have to spend $2000 to get a 20 HP increase, is it really worth it type of thing... And do it right, not half-assed.

I would probably go talk to someone professional like with Greddy or DC Sports to start learning what you can do if you're going to take on the Accord project, someone that has really dealt with Hondas.

Planning ahead you'll want/need better suspension for sure and better rubber on the corners too, maybe even better brakes at some point.

But again, we're talking about doing things proper and not just slapping crap on there to say you've got it. Anyone can be a poser.
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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keep in mind that the transmission in that car is very weak, dosent handle much of any abuse... including driving hard, burnouts, etc. Something else to keep in mind. If you stomp on it all the time you're gonna ruin the tranny.
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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ok, i know that an accord can't be the fastest car in the world. (obviously) but i ment that i want it to be faster than it is now...basically. (sorry, i went a little overboard)

and i know that the valve covers don't do anything for speed. im just looking for some not so....extreme, changes that will make me faster.

ok,
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 05:46 PM
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A good start would be, as stated above:

1. intake (either CAI or if you wanted to save money to start, just a K&N drop in)
2. a new header (for the money, this can be one of the single biggest HP increases if you get a good one 2-15 HP sometimes)
3. cat. back exhaust ( I don't mean a fart can, I mean a good system. If you change your intake and your header then this completes that aspect.)

If you change the input, it makes sense that you should change the output; right? Doing what I listed above will get you on a good start where you're not forking out TONS of money to tear into the engine just yet, etc. Your car will breath better and flow better. You could get maybe like 3-15 HP just in doing those 3 things (and I'm being probably conservative, but I'm not going to go crazy and give big numbers because they simply won't be there.).

AEM makes good cold air intakes (CAI). There are others too, just don't do cheap.

DC Sports makes awesome exhaust components for Hondas. Specifically, the header.

Exhausts are all over the place. You've got guys like Greddy and Borla and lots of others though those 2 are pretty good stuffs.

There will be varying opinions. This is just mine and it WILL be a good start for the money and time invested. You might could do all of it for $1000-$1200 if you play our cards right. If ALL you have is the $600 for now, do an intake and the header first. You will NOT go wrong doing a header either way. Just do your research and get a good one, like a DC Sports.

Good luck.
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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the comptech header gives gains of around 30 hp, dosent it?
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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I'm not up on all the headers. I just know by rumblings over the years that DC Sports is or has been pretty good for Hondas.

I think a 30 HP gain from a header alone is pretty ambitious, though I guess its possible. I mean, I guess if you got those sonic pulses tuned just right; but that's maybe more marketing BS... ooops... I mean "speak" than real numbers. But hey if someone can slap on a certain header with nothing else and, via a dyno, see that much gain; then wow, a header does more than I ever thought, especially for an Accord.

I think 5-10-15 is probably more inline with what a header that has been well made for the application it's being applied to can do. Now, I'm not talking about and I don't know about the crazy, high-dollar headers for hardcore racing applications or anything like that. Maybe those kinds do add that much. I don't know.

Now, if you said 30 HP gain with a new intake, header and cat. back exhaust together, then sure, absolutely possible and maybe then some. But I always stay conservative when someone asks me what to reasonably expect.

And too, is that 30 HP supposed gain on the same model Accord or was that some other application that the company is trying to brag about. You see where I'm going ? I mean what a header does on an STi isn't the same thing it does for an Accord or whatever. Know what I mean?
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SumAccordGuy94
the comptech header gives gains of around 30 hp, dosent it?
30hp from a header alone? I dont think so bro
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95
30hp from a header alone? I dont think so bro
comptech headers do pull close to 30 on the 6cyl engine.

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the transmission is weak... but the number of people who have issues running stock is around 5% or so. You can forget about Supercharging the engine on the stock tranny. Dr. Evil does make aftermarket transmissions able to withstand 400whp+, but they cost about $4000 + install.

DC sports does not make headers for the v6 accord. The only choices are Comptech, which are CARB approves, if your state needs it...they can run up to $1000, or Megan/OBX/InsertEbayBrandHere for ~$300, but you may have issues with fitment/resonance/etc.

For intakes, it was Dyno proven that the AEM SRI produced better gains compared to the CAI. The v2 is supposed to be better, but it costs almost twice as much. i dont remember the dyno comparisons for the v2 off the top of my head at the moment. h:

There are several brands for Exhaust... Comptech/Magnaflow/Greddy/etc. But the issue with Cat-back exhausts is that they give you better high end performance at the cost of low-end torque, which the j30 engines do not have much of anyway. A better compromise would be to get Axle-Backs... which give you moderate high end, without losing too much low-end torque.


if i had 600 to blow... i'd spend it on a good aftermarket suspension.... but my timing belt change is coming up very soon so i gotta save up for that

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