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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 09:04 AM
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I'm just wondering how many of you guys saw mechanics reuse old crush washer during oil change. Honda Owner's site has an interesting FAQ item that emphasizes the importance of replacing the used washer with a new one every time when oil change happens. I know for sure that my GoodYear failed to do it at least twice...
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by eaf
I'm just wondering how many of you guys saw mechanics reuse old crush washer during oil change. Honda Owner's site has an interesting FAQ item that emphasizes the importance of replacing the used washer with a new one every time when oil change happens. I know for sure that my GoodYear failed to do it at least twice...
The crush washer is useless after you use it once. The purpose of it is to seal the bolt 100%, hence it being made out of soft aluminum that easily deforms and seals. Plus they're $.10 apiece. It's retarded not to replace them for the engine oil and tranny fluid.

hairybush, get that shit out of here If I was a mod you'd be warned like 50 points.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 09:22 AM
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he should get a bad warning for that type of stuff.
ban would be even better.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by hoyoung02
he should get a bad warning for that type of stuff.
ban would be even better.
Click on his username and click 'find more posts'...it'll make you
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 98CoupeV6
Click on his username and click 'find more posts'...it'll make you
yeah...

https://www.honda-acura.net/forums/s...earchid=782862

kinda stupid IMO..well, very stupid.

and it gives me more reason to look at my avatar more ofthen this his sn

oh yeah...btw 98CoupeV6, my Avatar > yours
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by hoyoung02
oh yeah...btw 98CoupeV6, my Avatar > yours
We've already discussed this :fawk:

My plan is to take a pic of my odo when I hit 200k in a month or two, until then I don't care enough to change it. I haven't even had indiglos for like 3 years, lol.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 98CoupeV6
The crush washer is useless after you use it once. The purpose of it is to seal the bolt 100%, hence it being made out of soft aluminum that easily deforms and seals. Plus they're $.10 apiece. It's retarded not to replace them for the engine oil and tranny fluid.

hairybush, get that shit out of here If I was a mod you'd be warned like 50 points.
The thing is that twice the oil leaked after doing the oil change at GoodYear, and they blamed it on the washer, saying that it went bad with time, but they'll change it for free now...

I had no clue myself that Hondas had crush washer that had to be changed every time. I kind of assumed, that non-Honda mechanics could be trusted to do at least such simple operations as an oil change, but I guess, I was wrong.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by eaf
The thing is that twice the oil leaked after doing the oil change at GoodYear, and they blamed it on the washer, saying that it went bad with time, but they'll change it for free now...

I had no clue myself that Hondas had crush washer that had to be changed every time. I kind of assumed, that non-Honda mechanics could be trusted to do at least such simple operations as an oil change, but I guess, I was wrong.
Nope. Non-Honda mechanics don't understand the importance of the washer and the fact that the bolt/pan design inherently has a gap in it. The washer is absolutely necessary.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 12:30 PM
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I've had luck re-using the crush washer on many-many occasions. I reuse the washer until the ID reaches the inner threads of the drain bolt then I cut the washer off and install a new one, I get about 3 uses per washer. I'm also not paying the premium for someone to change my oil either.

I'm not cheap, the washer simply doesn't look used up after one use to me; that said I don't use a breaker bar to install the washer either and use up the tolerance in one install. I haven't had any bad luck yet with such a simple washer.

Our old mitsu Eclipse had the hollow o-ring type metal crush washer. I hated those, I simply used the Honda ones on our Mitsu for the re-usability.

My dealer would reuse the washer a time or two, however they would also use silicone sealant to add to the seal.

It seemed to me a new washer would just be cheaper for them though?
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MrChad
I've had luck re-using the crush washer on many-many occasions. I reuse the washer until the ID reaches the inner threads of the drain bolt then I cut the washer off and install a new one, I get about 3 uses per washer. I'm also not paying the premium for someone to change my oil either.

I'm not cheap, the washer simply doesn't look used up after one use to me; that said I don't use a breaker bar to install the washer either and use up the tolerance in one install. I haven't had any bad luck yet with such a simple washer.

Our old mitsu Eclipse had the hollow o-ring type metal crush washer. I hated those, I simply used the Honda ones on our Mitsu for the re-usability.

My dealer would reuse the washer a time or two, however they would also use silicone sealant to add to the seal.

It seemed to me a new washer would just be cheaper for them though?
Well theoretically the way to reuse a crush washer properly would be to torque the bolt down a little harder each time so it compresses the aluminum more, so if you have a torque wrench and actually write it down then I guess they could be lifetime crush washers. But c'mon, it's $.10
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