I might be imagining things but....
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From: Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeetroit
Originally Posted by syclone
.. lighter weight is better for colder weather. the thinner oil allows for easier startup and better protection during the first stages of startup..
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In my 02 Camry I switched to synthetics after 800 miles. Used synthetics ever since (50+ k now). Engine is INCREDIBLY smooth (4 cylynder) and poweful. I recently drove TWO other Camries (02 and 04) and my engine (smoothness and power) is at least two classes above the other two I camries I drove.
So, I think synthetics are fine. I think factories (for the US at least) don't put synthetics due to cost. In premium cars (lexus, BMW) you find them factory instaled. In Europe (at least my family and their friends) wonder why we still use mineral oils in egnines at all (because we are cheap.)
Even the gas we use is f.. up. In Germany and most europe they use 95 and 98 Octane. Ferraries (some models) and even VW sold in the US have to be slightly modified due to the fact that the gas we use is "raw" and low in octane.
So, I think synthetics are fine. I think factories (for the US at least) don't put synthetics due to cost. In premium cars (lexus, BMW) you find them factory instaled. In Europe (at least my family and their friends) wonder why we still use mineral oils in egnines at all (because we are cheap.)
Even the gas we use is f.. up. In Germany and most europe they use 95 and 98 Octane. Ferraries (some models) and even VW sold in the US have to be slightly modified due to the fact that the gas we use is "raw" and low in octane.
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From: Chicagoland, IL
Originally Posted by Accord2005NJ
In my 02 Camry I switched to synthetics after 800 miles. Used synthetics ever since (50+ k now). Engine is INCREDIBLY smooth (4 cylynder) and poweful. I recently drove TWO other Camries (02 and 04) and my engine (smoothness and power) is at least two classes above the other two I camries I drove.
So, I think synthetics are fine. I think factories (for the US at least) don't put synthetics due to cost. In premium cars (lexus, BMW) you find them factory instaled. In Europe (at least my family and their friends) wonder why we still use mineral oils in egnines at all (because we are cheap.)
Even the gas we use is f.. up. In Germany and most europe they use 95 and 98 Octane. Ferraries (some models) and even VW sold in the US have to be slightly modified due to the fact that the gas we use is "raw" and low in octane.
So, I think synthetics are fine. I think factories (for the US at least) don't put synthetics due to cost. In premium cars (lexus, BMW) you find them factory instaled. In Europe (at least my family and their friends) wonder why we still use mineral oils in egnines at all (because we are cheap.)
Even the gas we use is f.. up. In Germany and most europe they use 95 and 98 Octane. Ferraries (some models) and even VW sold in the US have to be slightly modified due to the fact that the gas we use is "raw" and low in octane.
We have lower octane for better EPA standards.....the poor folks in Cali can only get 91...sad really.
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Local Sunoco station used to sell 100 octane. I gad a Pontiac GT (99) a while ago and I used to put few galons here and there just to "spice" things up (expensive though -like 10 bucks per galon).
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From: philly
Originally Posted by Accord2005NJ
Has anyone have any experience with installing (thru Honda dealership) remote start up (05 Accord)?
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From: Bethlehem PA
Originally Posted by Accord2005NJ
Hi,
I have 05 Accord 4 cylynder. After 1500 miles switched to Mobil 1 0W-20 synthetic. I notice that the engine sometimes makes a sound that is best described like the sound you get when you take a toy remote control car and push it around with your hand (without engaging the toy's bateries). The kind of a bit high pitch sound.
Now, I don't know if it is just me imagining things, or is it normal for the new Honda engines to sound a bit high pitch..... :driving: It is very subtle and usually (I think) it is noticable when you accelerate and then let go of the gas pedal (I think?)..... ir it could be that I am just a new owner and a paranoid f.u.k?
I have 05 Accord 4 cylynder. After 1500 miles switched to Mobil 1 0W-20 synthetic. I notice that the engine sometimes makes a sound that is best described like the sound you get when you take a toy remote control car and push it around with your hand (without engaging the toy's bateries). The kind of a bit high pitch sound.
Now, I don't know if it is just me imagining things, or is it normal for the new Honda engines to sound a bit high pitch..... :driving: It is very subtle and usually (I think) it is noticable when you accelerate and then let go of the gas pedal (I think?)..... ir it could be that I am just a new owner and a paranoid f.u.k?
Isnt it a bit to early to switch over to synthetic?
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From: Detroit, MI
You will not find synthetic oil from the factory in any new engine due to inproper ring seating.
http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
Changing to syn at 1500 miles is fine.
Also, changing the factory oil within the first 500 miles isn't bad. They don't put any mystery oil in the car.
http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
Changing to syn at 1500 miles is fine.
Also, changing the factory oil within the first 500 miles isn't bad. They don't put any mystery oil in the car.