Accord heart transplant??
06-23-2004, 05:11 PM
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f22 bottum h23/h22 head would be great here. You would be pushing h22/23 hp but would be able to boost the shit outa like an F series (well, it kinda would be).
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=776837
I really want to here about someone else doing this start to finish...so if you do decide to, please keep a niggie up to date
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=776837
I really want to here about someone else doing this start to finish...so if you do decide to, please keep a niggie up to date
06-23-2004, 05:20 PM
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RWD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FWD
Unless you do a RWD or AWD swap on your Accord you'll get nowhere. With 500 ponies the amount of torque steer you will face will make your gut wrench. Stop being a ricer and going down the "I wanna show those domestic owners" Unless you want to spend big bucks and lose all daily driveable quality you'll never reach that goal.
Unless you do a RWD or AWD swap on your Accord you'll get nowhere. With 500 ponies the amount of torque steer you will face will make your gut wrench. Stop being a ricer and going down the "I wanna show those domestic owners" Unless you want to spend big bucks and lose all daily driveable quality you'll never reach that goal.
06-24-2004, 08:45 PM
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if you go to www.preluderacing.com you will find a 500+ hp h23 turbo so let the guy do it i already know it can be done he has dyno sheets on his web page to roove his hp so i will give the guy props on going for it jsut do it you wil be happy
06-25-2004, 05:31 PM
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PERFORMANCE VALUES TO DATE
Dyno tested at 22-24lbs of boost on a Mustang MD250 Chassis Dyno (Sept 2002):
491.2 wheel hp @ 7000rpm and 401.4 ft/lb torque @ 5900rpm
Due to the fact that a Mustang dyno typically yields values
8-12% lower than a DynoJet the expected whp & torque values are as follows:
530.5 - 550.1 whp & 433.5 - 449.6 ft-lbs torque
Given a 15% loss from the engine to the wheels, expected flywheel values are:
610.1 - 632.6 hp & 498.5 - 517.0 ft-lbs torque
Dyno tested at 22-24lbs of boost on a Mustang MD250 Chassis Dyno (Sept 2002):
491.2 wheel hp @ 7000rpm and 401.4 ft/lb torque @ 5900rpm
Due to the fact that a Mustang dyno typically yields values
8-12% lower than a DynoJet the expected whp & torque values are as follows:
530.5 - 550.1 whp & 433.5 - 449.6 ft-lbs torque
Given a 15% loss from the engine to the wheels, expected flywheel values are:
610.1 - 632.6 hp & 498.5 - 517.0 ft-lbs torque
06-25-2004, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ridinlo95accord
so r you saying i should go with the H23? the H23 has the same stroke as the F22 however it has the bore of the H22, so really it has the best of both worlds...I plan on using boost to get the higher hp, and im hoping to push around 15-20lbs of boost if the motor can hold it i think itll be able to hold it though, ill let you guys no how it goes itll be a little bit bc i just spent a lot on the motor to get it so ill have to save up some to begin the work, it looks good all torn apart in the garage though, ha ha i cant wait to get her in though its gonna be fun even if i dont get what i want itll b better than what i have now, an old beat F22 with 190,000 miles and an I/H/E and some suspension work done, but it holds its own against the rice so its all good!
good luck to everyone and thanks for the help!
good luck to everyone and thanks for the help!
My brother had a fully built bottom to top h22 t3/t04 and it put down 350 to the crank at 12lbs boost and god knows wtf he had when he blew his shit at 20lbs. He did put a Evolution to shame by a few cars but shortly thereafter,......like another half block down his engine wasnt worth anything because it was literally torn to shreds. Where there is money there is a way, where there is time there is money, if you have deep pockets you can build the accord up but for my brother after having spent almost $15k on just that motor and turbo..........its simply not worth it. Personal opinion but yea; I think if you just built the h22 up for just plain ground pounding power.......you would get much more respect even if you lost a race.
06-26-2004, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ridinlo95accord
well let me tell you what i want to do to it and see what you guys think. i plan on takin the crank and gettin it balance then bore it out from 2.2 to a 2.3 maybe 2.4 if i can get some pistons that size, then rebuild the head with titanium springs and valves put some aggresive cams in( i dont know what brand though, prob skunk 2 cams and aem cam gears and underdrive pulleys) aem fuel rail and fuel press reg racing radiator high flow water pump use the metal hoses ngk plugs new plug wires prob drop the A/C for that little extra hp get the greddy turbo kit and intercooler and upgrade from that, im also gonna rebuild the lude tranny with a stage 4 ACT clutch and flywheel possibly put new gears in it with racing axles, get bigger brakes prob brembo brakes. thats it for the lude motor ive already got a DC CAI and Greddy EVO II which im gonna keep,(ive got DC stainless headers on right now but they wont work with the lude motor) ive already got DC stainless header for the lude and a high flow cat converter, the type s motor stock has 235hp so let me ask you will doing all this only give me 350 hp? If so im gonna sell the lude motor and build the F22, so let me know what you guys think,
06-26-2004, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 99Accolude
the type s h22 does not have 235hp stock. more like 205hp. and like 170 - 180hp to the wheels. 500+ is reachable with sleeved block. worked head piston and rods. boost 20+.. its attainable.