Before DEI took over? Viper has always been made by DEI, along with Python,Sidewinder,Hornet,Wasp,Rattler,and Valet. Its not like DEI just took on Viper. As far as your continuous circuit goes. All that is is the way the starter kill relay is wired up. It is one that is a normally open relay circuit and when the key is turned on it closes the circuit via the alarm. The Viper has a normally closed circuit that when the alarm is armed it sends a ground to the relay opening the starter circuit. The "Avantguard4" that is the only alarm out there with the fuel pump starter kill is not that unique. All that is(and can be done with any alarm.even POS Bulldog Alarms) is a relay that cuts the power to the fuel pump done with a "ground when armed" output on the alarm. So there is not really any who is better or what not. They both are great alarms and both can have exact features. The Viper line is the only one with Responder Technology though. But its all in what the customer wants.

 

Are you still looking for remote starter for manual trans? I just installed mine in my Civic....AWESOME man!!! Its made by ULTRA START... they have few model just made for Manual Tranny.. I have 2250M, it cost me $92. It safe, you need to set it to "reserve mode" in order to remote start you r car,, meaning it wont start just by pressing start button. After shifting ur gear to neutral press ur brake pedal, lift your hand brake then release the brake....your gauge cluster lights will flash couple of time that confirms you're in "reserve mode" The rest of the instruction.. when you buy it... =) goodluck Man!!!!

 

Here is some words of wisdom.

I have also a 98 GTI VR6 Turbo.

I installed a Viper 790VX alarm system into my car. ( German cars you could install remote starts without by passing the clutch.

Well when I was done installing the alarm and went to auto start the car was " accidentally " left in gear and lunged forward when started.

Now my garage has a big black dent in it.
Now Imagine if there was a kid in front of the car when this happend. Or if I parked it in the street and tried remote starting it while its in gear.

 

I think its all about habit. If u are used to leaving ur car in gear and have been doing it for years then don't get one. If u are like me and for years have been leaving the car in neutral and with the e-brak (which is safer in case someone hits ur parked car) then go ahead and get a starter since chances are greater u won't leav it in gear. Right now I can beat my head that my car is in neutral but I have no memory of leaving it that way. If u have to think about leaving it in neutral and its not a habit than one day u will forget and BOOOM!!!

 

Well, VIPER dont have it yet. There is no risk if you install ULTRA START 2250M [or other model for manual trans] Here how it works: STEP 1 - While the engine is running with the key, place the trans into neutral and apply the parking brake. STEP 2 - Press and release the brake pedal twice. The park lights will flash twice, the siren will chirp twice & the doors will unlock [optional] STEP 3 - Turn the ignition key off & the engine will continue running. STEP 4 - Exit the vehicle & close all the doors. The vehicle will then shut off..and its ready to remote start operation.
By doing this steps, there is NO OTHER WAY of setting your vehicle to "ready mode". PLUS, if someone open your door & put your trans in gear, it cancels the operation. [Once the door opened, the door pin switch will activate and send signal to the brain that will de-activate the program] .... You CANNOT just start your engine whenever you want, you have to follow the procedure for safety reason...



STEP - 1 STEP - 1

 

Original Quote
Here is some words of wisdom.
I installed a Viper 790VX alarm system into my car. ( German cars you could install remote starts without by passing the clutch.

Well when I was done installing the alarm and went to auto start the car was " accidentally " left in gear and lunged forward when started.

Now my garage has a big black dent in it.
Now Imagine if there was a kid in front of the car when this happend. Or if I parked it in the street and tried remote starting it while its in gear.
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Thats why most remote starters are designed for "AUTOMATIC Trans" and CANNOT be use or installed to MANUAL Trans.. Lets put it this way, when some people see a sign "WET PAINT" they still touch it just to make sure that the PAINT IS WET.. What I am saying here is why do you have install a remote start that is specifically designed for AUTO Trans and still install it to MANUAL trans..

 

All I can say is look at the compustar unit.

 

why you gotta be hatin on me. :angry: :sqfawk: :wiggle:

 

Does it matter if its for auto or not. You could get rear ended driving on the highway.
50/50 chance.

If you could do it, why not.

 

:awais: Yes you can but you will end up to this situation again, or maybe others...[see your own post below]:

flyromeo3: Now my garage has a big black dent in it.
Now Imagine if there was a kid in front of the car when this happend. Or if I parked it in the street and tried remote starting it while its in gear.