i'm selling my '98 civic ex (supercharged) and i've been driving it to work (didnt normally) so people can see its for sale, which they cant if she spends most of her days in the garage like normal.

anyways, after putting in the act stage 2, i grinded second a few times due to the change in where the clutch grabbed and released. well today it started popping out of second, when decelerating and pressure was put on the tranny fairly quickly due to quick let off of the accelerator. if i slowly let off the gas and decelerated, its stays in for the most part.

is this a synchros issue, need a new gear? i can kinda feel a difference putting it into second compared to other gears, its falls in easier with less resistance, i'm guessing the resistance i feel in all other gears is also what holds it in gear when weight is put on the tranny.

its only like $250 to replace the whole tranny isnt it? (d16y8 motor). i'm just worried about being able to sell the car. i have a wrx to mod now! dang!!!

 

This could be a nearly free thing to fix, and it could be a new tranny needed. I'd start by checking the linkage to make sure that stupid dowel pin is in there tight, and that nothing on the linkage is loose or obstructed. Something could just be in the way. Then I'd re-adjust your clutch master cylinder so that there's at least 1 inch of free play in the pedal. It may be pre-loading your clutch (keeping pressure on the fork), keeping it from fully engaging. This will make you pop out of gear.

The worst thing it could be is a busted shift fork. It's like a $50 part inside your tranny, but labor to replace it is so high that you'd be better off replacing the tranny. I hope that's not your deal.

I broke my 1/2 gear shift fork in my non-civic. I have to rebuild it because a new unmodified AWD gearbox is $3000. Mines pretty heavily modded. Dang.

Good luck with your WRX, and welcome to turbo-AWD world!!! :thumbup: Now don't go breakin' that tranny, too. It costs a "tad bit" more than a Honda box to fix.

 

Sorry, that's 1/2" to 1" of free play. You don't want more than 1".

 

welcome to my world, after i changed my clutch second gear started to pop out, now 3rd does the same. its the forks that hold the it in gear.

 

Jafro

you've given me a glimpse of hope. when you mentioned the dowel pin coming loose you reminded me of how with in the last week or two my shifter has loosened up, so that when its in gear it has about an inch of play from left to right and half an inch front to back back...which makes finding reverse abnormally difficult. anways maybe its all related.

i'll be putting it up on a lift tonight and tightening things up, and looking for any abnormalities, wish me luck...oh i'll be putting some H&R's on the soobie tonight as well i'm lovin the wrx so far, 12 second quarters here i come!!! oh and trust me i'm babying the tranny, i've only launched it a few times, no dumping on this clutch.

 

12 second 1/4's? Did you buy it heavily modded? It takes some work to get those things that fast. Not that they can't... There's one around my neck of the woods running 12.40's, but he's spent a shload of money on it to do it. Stock, aren't they low-15-high-14 second cars? I've got a long mod list, and I haven't scratched 12's quite yet... I dream about it a lot, though.

As for that dowel pin... a little play on the linkage = a lot of play on the stick. There's supposed to be a C-clip that goes around the linkage, holding the pin in place. Make sure that's there. If you don't have one on it, a hose clamp will work to hold it in.

 

its an internal part. if you read, i told you the same thing happened to my tranny after i did my clutch. so im changing out the tranny some time this/next week.

 

Crucial... :eh: Before you go on with the... "if you read"s...

Usually if you frag a shift fork, it will take out your 1 & 2 gear, or your 3 & 4. A busted fork doesn't usually make it pop out of only one gear, it will pop out of both 1 & 2 or both 3 & 4. He's only popping out of second.

Linkage is a good thing to check first. Especially because it's a hell of a lot less expensive, and a lot easier to fix. If he fixes his linkage and it still does it, then bye bye gearbox, but I'm not going to tell him to pull his tranny because his linkage is bad. That's like telling someone to swap their engine because their alternator died.

 

But yes... popping out of gear is ONE sign that's indicative of a broken shift fork. Hondas don't usually have that problem, though, because it takes torque to break a fork. Usually Hondas wear out bearings and synchros long before breaking forks. Oh wait... he's boosted... I dunno... maybe.

 

got the H&Rs on the soobie last night, everything went pretty smoothly. dropped the car off the jack and jack stands and it kept going lower and lower. the car looks awesome. i was worried that it wouldnt lower it as much as i'd like, it beat my expectations and the car has a very sexy stance now.

the performance of the springs are very impressive as well, took a few on/off ramps at high rates of speed on my way home and it hugged the road like a mom sending her boy off to college (i just made that up)

unfortunately we didnt get started until late so i wasnt able to put the civic up in the air to take a look. hopefully this weekend i'll have a chance to, even though it'll be sitting in a carshow friday and saturday.