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Old May 18, 2004 | 06:03 PM
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$75? alright, I'll do that tommorow, thanks.
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Old May 18, 2004 | 07:25 PM
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Did that bosch come complete with wiring(no splicing) or did you splice it?
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Old May 19, 2004 | 01:46 AM
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bosch will sell a OEM replacement and a Universal replacement,..the OEM replacement is of course going to be expensive (somewhere in the $200 range) and the Universal replacement will be around 80 bucks,..the OEM replacement will plug right up with no splicing,..the Universal replacement will have to be spliced but they supply you with a connector that makes everything look clean
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Old May 19, 2004 | 09:27 AM
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I have used the bosch one that's cheapo, the splicing the wire one. It seemed to work but I don't like it. I remember taking advanced engine performance classes they were saying that the OEM o2 sensors are calibrated from the factory to work with the OEM computer. If you repair a wire in the o2 sensor wiring(or in this case just splice one in)
the wiring gets increased resistance from the added splice which alters the signal. The signal is usually like 0-5 volts and switches when you going down the road, well if you add some resistance to the wiring that is not suppose to be there the computer will get a signal that is lower than normal. I personally would not put one on my hondas.
However the customer wanted a bosch one installed that spliced in so i put it in no warrenty... It seems to switch and work okay but i don't trust it. Just a thought though to think about.
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Old May 19, 2004 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by hondatech
I have used the bosch one that's cheapo, the splicing the wire one. It seemed to work but I don't like it. I remember taking advanced engine performance classes they were saying that the OEM o2 sensors are calibrated from the factory to work with the OEM computer. If you repair a wire in the o2 sensor wiring(or in this case just splice one in)
the wiring gets increased resistance from the added splice which alters the signal. The signal is usually like 0-5 volts and switches when you going down the road, well if you add some resistance to the wiring that is not suppose to be there the computer will get a signal that is lower than normal. I personally would not put one on my hondas.
However the customer wanted a bosch one installed that spliced in so i put it in no warrenty... It seems to switch and work okay but i don't trust it. Just a thought though to think about.
What if I were to splice it without solder? So that all it is is copper wire connected to copper wire...
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Old May 19, 2004 | 04:03 PM
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Well to do that you would have to butt connect it correct? that's extra resistance...
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Old May 20, 2004 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by hondatech
Well to do that you would have to butt connect it correct? that's extra resistance...
Without a gold connector, just copper touching copper wrapped with an insulator (electric tape)
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Old May 20, 2004 | 02:24 PM
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I see where you are going but would you trust that as an acceptable repair??? I would just buy the right part and suck it up.
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Old May 20, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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I have this same thing with mine, but I have not been able to figure it out.... Can anyone do me a favor and take a picture or tell me the wiring placement for these wires from the O2 Sensor to the the splices? We went by a OBDI 95 Civic, and I think that they are in different places than the OBDII 99 that I have. We have tried everything, and now, I just don't think that the wires are in the right place....
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Old May 20, 2004 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by hondatech
I see where you are going but would you trust that as an acceptable repair??? I would just buy the right part and suck it up.
I did the exact think for my ethernet cable when it was chewn through twice by my previous dog. There's a way I learned to do it, spread the wires apart, force them thru each other perpendicularly and loop one around the other, and then loop the other...it's confusing, but I tested it on a 22AWG wire and it held up 70lbs in my shop class.
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