Holy Shizzzzzzle!! please give advice..
Originally Posted by Jkan2001
What are you, retarded or do you just not understand the basic physics/bad idea of the swap. Why do you think most people elect to stay B series and turbo.
Point being, you stuff a motor that weighs a good 300 pounds more than the dinky ass 1.6L sohc that came in it and it's very likely to crack parts of the subframe/chassis, it's not rocket science.
Point being, you stuff a motor that weighs a good 300 pounds more than the dinky ass 1.6L sohc that came in it and it's very likely to crack parts of the subframe/chassis, it's not rocket science.
Originally Posted by 94whtGsr
Ok most people do elect to go with a B series, but even then the weight difference between the B series and the h22 isnt enough to be the difference between this problem occurring and not occurring... the difference if im not mistaken is around 40lbs give or take a few lbs from the B and H series... so minus the ps/ac on the h22 and its not as much of a difference as you think.. so get your facts straight before you start your normal shit talking...
1) Place Racing H22 Mounts blow. They have little product testing and almost no engineering time into the design of the mounts. They use a cheap welded metal design and the powder coat it all to make it look pretty. They just copy others designs, mainly HCP. but the mounts generally are really bad copies and the orientation of the motor is not consider that much. The engine mount applied a load to the frame rail on some angle that it wasn't designed for, so it tore out of the rail
2) the weld used to fix the mount probably weakened the metal even worse. its been established that whoever did it obviously didn't know what they were doing. the heat might have been to high and the he could've welded in one spot for to long, while pouring on all that extra metal. Its a common known fact that metal warps and stresses while being welded.
3)Honda does sell that piece of sheet metal that goes in front of the shock tower. Its actually a common thing to replace in front end repairs. Go to a body shop to have this fixed, probably replacing it is better...just have them weld in a new one, and you'll be fine.
4) after everything is fixed, replace mounts with HCP or HASport mounts.
Originally Posted by incublinkus
yeah, the H22 only ways about 40-50 lbs more then a B-series motor. THe problem with the whole deal is this:
1) Place Racing H22 Mounts blow. They have little product testing and almost no engineering time into the design of the mounts. They use a cheap welded metal design and the powder coat it all to make it look pretty. They just copy others designs, mainly HCP. but the mounts generally are really bad copies and the orientation of the motor is not consider that much. The engine mount applied a load to the frame rail on some angle that it wasn't designed for, so it tore out of the rail
2) the weld used to fix the mount probably weakened the metal even worse. its been established that whoever did it obviously didn't know what they were doing. the heat might have been to high and the he could've welded in one spot for to long, while pouring on all that extra metal. Its a common known fact that metal warps and stresses while being welded.
3)Honda does sell that piece of sheet metal that goes in front of the shock tower. Its actually a common thing to replace in front end repairs. Go to a body shop to have this fixed, probably replacing it is better...just have them weld in a new one, and you'll be fine.
4) after everything is fixed, replace mounts with HCP or HASport mounts.
1) Place Racing H22 Mounts blow. They have little product testing and almost no engineering time into the design of the mounts. They use a cheap welded metal design and the powder coat it all to make it look pretty. They just copy others designs, mainly HCP. but the mounts generally are really bad copies and the orientation of the motor is not consider that much. The engine mount applied a load to the frame rail on some angle that it wasn't designed for, so it tore out of the rail
2) the weld used to fix the mount probably weakened the metal even worse. its been established that whoever did it obviously didn't know what they were doing. the heat might have been to high and the he could've welded in one spot for to long, while pouring on all that extra metal. Its a common known fact that metal warps and stresses while being welded.
3)Honda does sell that piece of sheet metal that goes in front of the shock tower. Its actually a common thing to replace in front end repairs. Go to a body shop to have this fixed, probably replacing it is better...just have them weld in a new one, and you'll be fine.
4) after everything is fixed, replace mounts with HCP or HASport mounts.
Originally Posted by b16aEGcivic
couldnt have said it any better myself
Originally Posted by Jkan2001
that's what you get for stuffing a heavy 2.2L motor+tranny that was designed for a 2900 pound lude in a tiny ass hatchback
To the rest of you that gave me good advice, thanks alot, i am probably going to take the car to a body shop who knows what they are doing, and buy a ENJO mount kit, mainly because it has the front cross mount that supports most of the weight of the motor, unlike these junky place racing mounts. once again thanks alot. I guess im going to fix this problem once and for all, i need to support that motor before it gets boosted.
sorry, some people just irritate me when they are just starting more pointless non-sense in a topic that doesnt need it. im already frustrated enough, this thread is to give advice or post ideas, not to ramble on about your oppions on h series vs. b series, find another topic on that and post in there. hopefully thats the last we'll have to hear about that. just had to get that out. thanks to everyone who helped me out.
Originally Posted by HatcHBacK3R
hahaha, as my auto tech teacher says " those welds look like a bull blew its noose on it" or how about "that weld looks like chicken shit"
what solution did you decide to go with on this matter?
If I see another flame in this post. it's going to be closed.
If I see another flame in this post. it's going to be closed.


