im with this guy

 

You honeslty do not see a problem with breaking up these protest? i mean wether you believe in their cause or not, you aren't worried about the government being able to break down these protests in each of the cities they have been organizing?

Also if it was a public park the protest would have been even worst off... they chose that park because it is open 24h nor curfews like publicly owned parks.

 

taking a shit in the street
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Wl1ObUGAoHE
committing sexual assault
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/13...lleged-sexual/
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/09...cupy-protests/
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...a317d48a1.1031
http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011...y-wall-street/
spreading disease
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybens...ccupy_protests
http://articles.businessinsider.com/...e-tuberculosis
http://healthland.time.com/2011/11/1...g-wall-street/
http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insid...sitive-for-tb/

they really should have just fenced the area off and torched it

 

Are you are saying that even though the protesters choose to be there the gov should be allowed to decide what is better for the people instead of the deciding for themselves? This is not affecting anyone that is not protesting, there are bad people in any group.

Bottom line is civil disobedience has shaped this world and still does like in the Arab uprising that unfortunately turned eventually violent in some case. But shutting down protesters like this scares me. Even if i don't agree with every messages they are trying to communicate.

 

Are you are saying that even though the protesters choose to be there the gov should be allowed to decide what is better for the people instead of the deciding for themselves? This is not affecting anyone that is not protesting, there are bad people in any group.

Bottom line is civil disobedience has shaped this world and still does like in the Arab uprising that unfortunately turned eventually violent in some case. But shutting down protesters like this scares me. Even if i don't agree with every messages they are trying to communicate.

 

What kind of fucked up fantasy world do you live in? The local governments are cleaning up these cesspools to protect the people who live and WORK in those cities. The people in those cities want the filthy rapists moved out too. This is not a protest it's a filthy mess of disease and crime which are a few of the things the government should help protect the people from. I want to be clear about one thing here I don't give a single fuck about those hippies dieing of some disease if they chose to live in a fucking shit addled dump. But the people around them in the city who have done nothing wrong shouldn't have to suffer. On top of this you especially have no right to preach people having the right to make choices about their health when you support socialist health care.

 

That is totally false. I say that living and working in the city where Occupy Oakland is. Their protests are damaging to small business around the area, they are costing the already broke city millions of dollars and giving the city / city officials a hell of a bad name. There is probably more.

I totally support the right to protest and I understand that it will always come at a cost to others. I dont mind giving up some of my conveniences if I feel the return would be beneficial...at this point, I feel the protests arent going anywhere and should stop. "Occupy" needs to have some meeting with some end goals in mind.

And folks that are not supportive of this movement....do you think what is going on with banks / big corporations and their influence on the government is right?

 

this movement had nothing to do with our government, if it did it would be occupy DC. what it really boils down to is these people saw someone get a hand out and they didn't get a share. they are bitching about the "rich" having, like, all the money man, and I can't, like pay for the student loan I needed for my art history degree. they don't even really have a message

But, and here's where it goes full retard. when the TEA party groups protested washington for giving bailouts and handout and said don't raise taxes to pay for it. they were call racists without hesitation or even a shred of evidence.

 

You are right in saying that the movement didnt really have a clear message. I have been saying that from day 1 and think that is a HUGE flaw in these protests. But I also think that the OWS movement also created a wave of empowerment and people just rode it. I think from there the movement started to evolve and people just started speaking about what they were concerned about. For example, they are "occupying" UC Berkeley and speaking out on raising tuition for the public schools here.

And if even it does boil down to someone getting a handout and them wanting that too, let that be. If in the end it changes legislation and higher education becomes more affordable, there are better tax laws and I get my "hand out"....:woot:

 

so I should just let it be every time I see half of my paycheck stolen from me to pay for these handouts?