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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 06:30 PM
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Originally posted by Colin Quinn
I don't take any form of drugs to control my life. does that make me stupid and ignorant? I would argue that needing drugs makes YOU stupid and ignorant. The only reason to take drugs is to keep yourself from dying, and even then i would commend anyone who has the will to avoid them.
even if it is for the sake of your mental health?
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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 06:33 PM
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god...some people are oblivious to the real world and think everything is all good and dandy.....They pass judgement without know anyone......argh....people like that deserve a :slap:
But then again....ignorance is bliss sometimes....
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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 06:41 PM
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I didn't read the original threNd, or that whole IM convo. But based on just that last statement from Col' I'm sensing a deep rooted dislike for pills and those who pop them. Family issues perhaps, bro? Don't have to tell specifics, but if I'm right It's sort of understandable.

I know I have a deep seeded loathing for my sister since she sort of drove my mother to a nervous breakdown before she hit 35. Not exactly the same thing, but pills can drive people to crap, and I know if I grew up with a pill popping relative and it messed up stuff... I'd sure as hell dislike pills...

Maybe I'm just dumb since I'm tired, though :dunno:
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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 06:45 PM
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no one who truly knows me would dare teach me how to handle depression. Everyone on this earth has a reason to kill themselves, in fact the average person has two reasons to kill themselves...if you need drugs to not die, (yes, suicide i suppose), thats fine, but if the drugs change you to the point of being unrecognizable as your former self is it truly worth the consequences?

I do not need drugs, alcohol, beer, or loose women to survive, they won't stop the tears; they're nothing more than childish diversions.

btw, anyone who can recognize their own depression is faking it in my eyes. If you know enough to realize it, you know enough to stop it.
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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by White[Pony]
I didn't read the original threNd, or that whole IM convo. But based on just that last statement from Col' I'm sensing a deep rooted dislike for pills and those who pop them. Family issues perhaps, bro? Don't have to tell specifics, but if I'm right It's sort of understandable.

I know I have a deep seeded loathing for my sister since she sort of drove my mother to a nervous breakdown before she hit 35. Not exactly the same thing, but pills can drive people to crap, and I know if I grew up with a pill popping relative and it messed up stuff... I'd sure as hell dislike pills...

Maybe I'm just dumb since I'm tired, though :dunno:
not at all the topic....that b18cac thinks that people who are clinically depressed are sick drama queens who chose to be depressed. medication is brought in when he also thinks that it does nothing for a mental issue.
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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 06:49 PM
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Originally posted by CiviChik97
not at all the topic....that b18cac thinks that people who are clinically depressed are sick drama queens who chose to be depressed. medication is brought in when he also thinks that it does nothing for a mental issue.
medication does not cure anything, it trades or offsets one problem for many other problems.
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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 06:52 PM
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I think maybe your view is slightly askew... but I sense a helluva lot more than just your own nature at work here. I think you witnessed a lot of these things in your past, and they've since changed a bit into the views you have now.

I can tell you from pretty personal experience that people with nervous breakdowns don't do it because they're drama queens. Don't try to fight me on it, dood. Take my word for it.
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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 06:57 PM
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Originally posted by Colin Quinn
medication does not cure anything, it trades or offsets one problem for many other problems.
I think you are being to general in your comment here.

I think there are those that don't need pills for depression that take them anyways but then there are those that know they have the problem and have had it for so long before diagnosis that they don't know what it is to be at that "normal" level.

I was on Zoloft for about a year and a half then once I understood the emotion pattern of "normalcy" I figured out how to control it minus the pills.

For some it just isn't that easy. Its like living a life and the whole time you are seeing things in the third person. You want to make changes and be happy but you honestly cannot.

Unless you have been through this vicious cycle there is no way you would ever understand the feeling....seriously there is just no way to describe it so that it makes sense.

If it made sense then we would not have a problem...right?
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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 09:12 PM
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I don't know what happened, but gotta say that Nightshade sure got some patient. :goodjob:
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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 09:56 PM
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Originally posted by Colin Quinn
I don't take any form of drugs to control my life. does that make me stupid and ignorant? I would argue that needing drugs makes YOU stupid and ignorant. The only reason to take drugs is to keep yourself from dying, and even then i would commend anyone who has the will to avoid them.
Yes, you are stupid and ignorant. And, I don't take drugs to control my life, I take them to get my brain chemistry back to normal. But, since you're banned, I guess I don't need to say anything more...
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