Empire falls
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Empire falls
In school we have discussed many times how the U.S. may be following the patterns of great ancient civilzations such as Rome and Greece in the sense that the all start humble, grow, reach a "Golden Age", and eventually fall.
I think we have passed our "Golden Age" and are on the downfall now. I believe our Golden Age was around the middle to late part of the 20th century. I think that our government is having more and more problems and it will only get worse. One big one is the fact that our foriegn enemies are getting worse and worse, especially in the Middle East. I believe that they will play a part in our downfall. Also issues such as the level of violence in society rising such as homicide and also violence in the media.
There are many parellels between the great ancient civilizations and the U.S.. Things such as the fact that all were the greatest, most advanced civilizations of the time. We are the most powerful to date. All had great armies. We have the best army int he world. All exercised dominance over the rest of the world in some way or another, such as us marketing our goods all over the world and having embassies and troops in many foriegn countries. The Middle East can be seen as perhaps the "barbaric" Northern Europeans that helped cause Rome to fall. Reasons to believe a similar fall will come to us.
I think when the end comes someone is going to fire off nuclear warheads, both us and them and send the world into chaos. I also believe that by that time our government will have become badly corrupted and the quality of life here will have slowly declined. I think that it will happen in the next 200 years and will not only destroy our country but lead the human race itself to struggling to survive, with a very large of percentage of people wiped out. Perhaps revert to a state of existence seen in the time of early humans, perhaps even prior to the Neolithic Revolution (hunting and gathering changes over to farming, dawn of civilizations). A complete rebirth of mankind, or perhaps mankind's self-destruction.
That's my opinion and I would like to know if anyone else has differing opinions on the topic or agrees with me.
I think we have passed our "Golden Age" and are on the downfall now. I believe our Golden Age was around the middle to late part of the 20th century. I think that our government is having more and more problems and it will only get worse. One big one is the fact that our foriegn enemies are getting worse and worse, especially in the Middle East. I believe that they will play a part in our downfall. Also issues such as the level of violence in society rising such as homicide and also violence in the media.
There are many parellels between the great ancient civilizations and the U.S.. Things such as the fact that all were the greatest, most advanced civilizations of the time. We are the most powerful to date. All had great armies. We have the best army int he world. All exercised dominance over the rest of the world in some way or another, such as us marketing our goods all over the world and having embassies and troops in many foriegn countries. The Middle East can be seen as perhaps the "barbaric" Northern Europeans that helped cause Rome to fall. Reasons to believe a similar fall will come to us.
I think when the end comes someone is going to fire off nuclear warheads, both us and them and send the world into chaos. I also believe that by that time our government will have become badly corrupted and the quality of life here will have slowly declined. I think that it will happen in the next 200 years and will not only destroy our country but lead the human race itself to struggling to survive, with a very large of percentage of people wiped out. Perhaps revert to a state of existence seen in the time of early humans, perhaps even prior to the Neolithic Revolution (hunting and gathering changes over to farming, dawn of civilizations). A complete rebirth of mankind, or perhaps mankind's self-destruction.
That's my opinion and I would like to know if anyone else has differing opinions on the topic or agrees with me.
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such an uplifting post...
i disagree, i think we will last for quite awhile longer than a decade
sure we have our fair share of problems, but we are leaps and bounds of ahead of those in the past, i think that if we continue to invest in our people, we will continue to grow
so as long as we elect the right leaders, we'll be fine
i disagree, i think we will last for quite awhile longer than a decade
sure we have our fair share of problems, but we are leaps and bounds of ahead of those in the past, i think that if we continue to invest in our people, we will continue to grow
so as long as we elect the right leaders, we'll be fine
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Re: Empire falls
Originally posted by Morpheus
In school we have discussed many times how the U.S. may be following the patterns of great ancient civilzations such as Rome and Greece in the sense that the all start humble, grow, reach a "Golden Age", and eventually fall.
I think we have passed our "Golden Age" and are on the downfall now. I believe our Golden Age was around the middle to late part of the 20th century. I think that our government is having more and more problems and it will only get worse. One big one is the fact that our foriegn enemies are getting worse and worse, especially in the Middle East. I believe that they will play a part in our downfall. Also issues such as the level of violence in society rising such as homicide and also violence in the media.
There are many parellels between the great ancient civilizations and the U.S.. Things such as the fact that all were the greatest, most advanced civilizations of the time. We are the most powerful to date. All had great armies. We have the best army int he world. All exercised dominance over the rest of the world in some way or another, such as us marketing our goods all over the world and having embassies and troops in many foriegn countries. The Middle East can be seen as perhaps the "barbaric" Northern Europeans that helped cause Rome to fall. Reasons to believe a similar fall will come to us.
I think when the end comes someone is going to fire off nuclear warheads, both us and them and send the world into chaos. I also believe that by that time our government will have become badly corrupted and the quality of life here will have slowly declined. I think that it will happen in the next 200 years and will not only destroy our country but lead the human race itself to struggling to survive, with a very large of percentage of people wiped out. Perhaps revert to a state of existence seen in the time of early humans, perhaps even prior to the Neolithic Revolution (hunting and gathering changes over to farming, dawn of civilizations). A complete rebirth of mankind, or perhaps mankind's self-destruction.
That's my opinion and I would like to know if anyone else has differing opinions on the topic or agrees with me.
In school we have discussed many times how the U.S. may be following the patterns of great ancient civilzations such as Rome and Greece in the sense that the all start humble, grow, reach a "Golden Age", and eventually fall.
I think we have passed our "Golden Age" and are on the downfall now. I believe our Golden Age was around the middle to late part of the 20th century. I think that our government is having more and more problems and it will only get worse. One big one is the fact that our foriegn enemies are getting worse and worse, especially in the Middle East. I believe that they will play a part in our downfall. Also issues such as the level of violence in society rising such as homicide and also violence in the media.
There are many parellels between the great ancient civilizations and the U.S.. Things such as the fact that all were the greatest, most advanced civilizations of the time. We are the most powerful to date. All had great armies. We have the best army int he world. All exercised dominance over the rest of the world in some way or another, such as us marketing our goods all over the world and having embassies and troops in many foriegn countries. The Middle East can be seen as perhaps the "barbaric" Northern Europeans that helped cause Rome to fall. Reasons to believe a similar fall will come to us.
I think when the end comes someone is going to fire off nuclear warheads, both us and them and send the world into chaos. I also believe that by that time our government will have become badly corrupted and the quality of life here will have slowly declined. I think that it will happen in the next 200 years and will not only destroy our country but lead the human race itself to struggling to survive, with a very large of percentage of people wiped out. Perhaps revert to a state of existence seen in the time of early humans, perhaps even prior to the Neolithic Revolution (hunting and gathering changes over to farming, dawn of civilizations). A complete rebirth of mankind, or perhaps mankind's self-destruction.
That's my opinion and I would like to know if anyone else has differing opinions on the topic or agrees with me.
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I think the biggest thing we have going for us is the fact we know and understand what led to the fall of the Romans, Greeks and even the British Empire. What we also have going for us is the fact 1/3 ofthe worlds GDP comes from the US...and that is not something the rest of the world can afford to loose. Quite frankly I am sure the rest of the civilized world would never let America fall. Sure Europe would like to try and become equal with America on the world stage...and it just may...but there is not a European nation that could afford to let the US fall apart. There is not a nation we trade with that can afford to let the US fall apart. We are the largest consumers of any nation and we import more than we export...who would buy all the products other countries have to sell?
What scares me though, and you mentioned it in your first post, is nuclear weapons. During the Cold War neither Russia nor America used them because they both knew the consequences and feared total anihalation. But what about uncivilized Arab/Muslim/young Middle Eastern men or whatever you want to classify them as who get ahold of a nuclear weapon or weapons? These people already love to die and love to kill innocent civilians. Do you think they would hesitate once to use one?
What scares me though, and you mentioned it in your first post, is nuclear weapons. During the Cold War neither Russia nor America used them because they both knew the consequences and feared total anihalation. But what about uncivilized Arab/Muslim/young Middle Eastern men or whatever you want to classify them as who get ahold of a nuclear weapon or weapons? These people already love to die and love to kill innocent civilians. Do you think they would hesitate once to use one?
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Originally posted by DVPGSR
I think the biggest thing we have going for us is the fact we know and understand what led to the fall of the Romans, Greeks and even the British Empire. What we also have going for us is the fact 1/3 ofthe worlds GDP comes from the US...and that is not something the rest of the world can afford to loose. Quite frankly I am sure the rest of the civilized world would never let America fall. Sure Europe would like to try and become equal with America on the world stage...and it just may...but there is not a European nation that could afford to let the US fall apart. There is not a nation we trade with that can afford to let the US fall apart. We are the largest consumers of any nation and we import more than we export...who would buy all the products other countries have to sell?
What scares me though, and you mentioned it in your first post, is nuclear weapons. During the Cold War neither Russia nor America used them because they both knew the consequences and feared total anihalation. But what about uncivilized Arab/Muslim/young Middle Eastern men or whatever you want to classify them as who get ahold of a nuclear weapon or weapons? These people already love to die and love to kill innocent civilians. Do you think they would hesitate once to use one?
I think the biggest thing we have going for us is the fact we know and understand what led to the fall of the Romans, Greeks and even the British Empire. What we also have going for us is the fact 1/3 ofthe worlds GDP comes from the US...and that is not something the rest of the world can afford to loose. Quite frankly I am sure the rest of the civilized world would never let America fall. Sure Europe would like to try and become equal with America on the world stage...and it just may...but there is not a European nation that could afford to let the US fall apart. There is not a nation we trade with that can afford to let the US fall apart. We are the largest consumers of any nation and we import more than we export...who would buy all the products other countries have to sell?
What scares me though, and you mentioned it in your first post, is nuclear weapons. During the Cold War neither Russia nor America used them because they both knew the consequences and feared total anihalation. But what about uncivilized Arab/Muslim/young Middle Eastern men or whatever you want to classify them as who get ahold of a nuclear weapon or weapons? These people already love to die and love to kill innocent civilians. Do you think they would hesitate once to use one?
omg, this is twice I agree with this dude. Quick!! Call an exorcist!!
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From: Northern VA
Originally posted by DVPGSR
I think the biggest thing we have going for us is the fact we know and understand what led to the fall of the Romans, Greeks and even the British Empire. What we also have going for us is the fact 1/3 ofthe worlds GDP comes from the US...and that is not something the rest of the world can afford to loose. Quite frankly I am sure the rest of the civilized world would never let America fall. Sure Europe would like to try and become equal with America on the world stage...and it just may...but there is not a European nation that could afford to let the US fall apart. There is not a nation we trade with that can afford to let the US fall apart. We are the largest consumers of any nation and we import more than we export...who would buy all the products other countries have to sell?
What scares me though, and you mentioned it in your first post, is nuclear weapons. During the Cold War neither Russia nor America used them because they both knew the consequences and feared total anihalation. But what about uncivilized Arab/Muslim/young Middle Eastern men or whatever you want to classify them as who get ahold of a nuclear weapon or weapons? These people already love to die and love to kill innocent civilians. Do you think they would hesitate once to use one?
I think the biggest thing we have going for us is the fact we know and understand what led to the fall of the Romans, Greeks and even the British Empire. What we also have going for us is the fact 1/3 ofthe worlds GDP comes from the US...and that is not something the rest of the world can afford to loose. Quite frankly I am sure the rest of the civilized world would never let America fall. Sure Europe would like to try and become equal with America on the world stage...and it just may...but there is not a European nation that could afford to let the US fall apart. There is not a nation we trade with that can afford to let the US fall apart. We are the largest consumers of any nation and we import more than we export...who would buy all the products other countries have to sell?
What scares me though, and you mentioned it in your first post, is nuclear weapons. During the Cold War neither Russia nor America used them because they both knew the consequences and feared total anihalation. But what about uncivilized Arab/Muslim/young Middle Eastern men or whatever you want to classify them as who get ahold of a nuclear weapon or weapons? These people already love to die and love to kill innocent civilians. Do you think they would hesitate once to use one?
