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Old Jan 12, 2011 | 10:06 AM
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I wasn't arguing for his intelligence. It's just an understood fact that it wasn't the best choice, but it doesn't alter anything in a legal standpoint.
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Old Jan 12, 2011 | 10:08 AM
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I know. Just posting stuff.
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Old Jan 12, 2011 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Zackk
He has every legal right to run at any time he pleases, and probably shouldn't be considered in the argument.

I see this situation starting somewhat of an uproar. I would have pulled, and at the very most shot to wound. I don't know though, I haven't been in that position and who am I to say I wouldn't completely panic.
I would never shoot to wound even if you are justified in shooting you can and will be sued.
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Old Jan 12, 2011 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by b00gers
Need that law in CA. It might get people to rethink doing stupid shit.

But 8 shots, and a couple were when guy was running away? :uhhok:
in the heat of the moment your body takes just as long to stop doing something as it does to start.

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Originally Posted by JessTD
if you pull you better be ready to shoot

and if you're going to shoot you better be ready to kill

never shoot to wound, thats a dangerous dangerous scenario

besides, dead men cant sue / talk / lie
Originally Posted by Zackk
I wasn't arguing for his intelligence. It's just an understood fact that it wasn't the best choice, but it doesn't alter anything in a legal standpoint.
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I would never shoot to wound even if you are justified in shooting you can and will be sued.
You do not shoot to wound OR shoot to kill.

Your goal is simply to stop the threat. Anything that occurs as a result of shooting to stop the threat is imply collateral.

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Originally Posted by thomas
I would never shoot to wound even if you are justified in shooting you can and will be sued.
Actually that depends on where you are.

If, in Louisiana, you are found criminally innocent or are not charged in a defensive shooting, the state says you cannot be sued in civil court.
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Old Jan 12, 2011 | 11:24 AM
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LA ftw then

MI the "victims" have a right to sue you even if you were justified . . . even if it was to prevent you from being murdered. doesnt mean they will win, just means they can.

as far as the shoot to wound vs shoot to kill vs should to stop the threat i think thats all difference of training imo. i agree overall its a shoot to stop threat scenario, however i was always taught/explained to that when you draw your weapon and pull the trigger you better aim to kill bc a wounded threat is still a threat albeit a minimized one. i like the statement shoot to stop a threat though, bit more PC o:

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Old Jan 12, 2011 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by JessTD
LA ftw then

MI the "victims" have a right to sue you even if you were justified . . . even if it was to prevent you from being murdered. doesnt mean they will win, just means they can.

as far as the shoot to wound vs shoot to kill vs should to stop the threat i think thats all difference of training imo. i agree overall its a shoot to stop threat scenario, however i was always taught/explained to that when you draw your weapon and pull the trigger you better aim to kill bc a wounded threat is still a threat albeit a minimized one. i like the statement shoot to stop a threat though, bit more PC o:
It's not training. It's mindset. For you and for the legal system.
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Old Jan 12, 2011 | 11:33 AM
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and my mindset is dead men can't sue. might be a bad one but when you grow up in a area where the sheriff stands there and tells you that you have a better chance if you kill the guy instead of wound him . . . well you see where i'm going here o:
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Old Jan 12, 2011 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by JessTD
and my mindset is dead men can't sue. might be a bad one but when you grow up in a area where the sheriff stands there and tells you that you have a better chance if you kill the guy instead of wound him . . . well you see where i'm going here o:
Maybe I should have been more specific.

Do what you want but you better know damn well if you verbalize that you were trying to kill the BG versus trying to stop him, you're setting yourself up for a world of trouble.
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Old Jan 12, 2011 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by spanky
Maybe I should have been more specific.

Do what you want but you better know damn well if you verbalize that you were trying to kill the BG versus trying to stop him, you're setting yourself up for a world of trouble.
This!
Just tell them you though your life was in danger!

Always ask for your lawyer or legal representation before you give a statement to police
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Old Jan 12, 2011 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by spanky
Maybe I should have been more specific.

Do what you want but you better know damn well if you verbalize that you were trying to kill the BG versus trying to stop him, you're setting yourself up for a world of trouble.
well you should have said you were talking what you say you were doing h:

it's a horrible idea to say you were trying to kill them.

as a matter of fact, you never say anything if the situation arrives. dont answer question, ask for lawyer, shut the fuck up. obviously you know all this but i'm just saying for the general group reading this thread
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