an essay that made me think a little
http://denbeste.nu/cd_log_entries/20...ourenemy.shtml
this guy makes some valid points, though he definately doesn't try to sugar coat his views. i'm sure someone here will call it racism.
discuss
this guy makes some valid points, though he definately doesn't try to sugar coat his views. i'm sure someone here will call it racism.
discuss
I do not think this can be classified as racism...it is a logically written essay as to the reasons Arabs and Muslims have such hatred towards America. By no means is this a politically correct essay but what he talks about makes sense and is probably pretty close to the truth, if not the truth, although most Arabs and Muslims would never admit to it.
Originally posted by Tirod²slc
link doesnt work.. but from the reply in this thread.. i think its safe to say that i dont agree with that [writer] being alive.. :thumbup: thank you
link doesnt work.. but from the reply in this thread.. i think its safe to say that i dont agree with that [writer] being alive.. :thumbup: thank you
it worked the 2nd time... :dunno:
"It's really difficult to exactly delineate who our enemies are, but they number in millions. They're Arab and Muslim, but not every Arab is among them, and most Muslims are not."
this is a statement of a crude-lamen [sp?] "retard" :chuckles:
"It's really difficult to exactly delineate who our enemies are, but they number in millions. They're Arab and Muslim, but not every Arab is among them, and most Muslims are not."
this is a statement of a crude-lamen [sp?] "retard" :chuckles:
Originally posted by Tirod²slc
it worked the 2nd time... :dunno:
"It's really difficult to exactly delineate who our enemies are, but they number in millions. They're Arab and Muslim, but not every Arab is among them, and most Muslims are not."
this is a statement of a crude-lamen [sp?] "retard" :chuckles:
it worked the 2nd time... :dunno:
"It's really difficult to exactly delineate who our enemies are, but they number in millions. They're Arab and Muslim, but not every Arab is among them, and most Muslims are not."
this is a statement of a crude-lamen [sp?] "retard" :chuckles:
Originally posted by /^Blackmagik^\
did you read the whole thing, or did you just pick out a line that you could throw a racism(or whatever) flag on and dismiss it?
did you read the whole thing, or did you just pick out a line that you could throw a racism(or whatever) flag on and dismiss it?
I'm reading this as the conclusion:
"Afghanistan and Iraq are the two parts of the consolidation phase of this war. al Qaeda had to be crippled and Saddam has to be destroyed in order to gain us time and adequate safety to go onto the offensive, and to begin the process which will truly end this war: to destroy Wahhabism, to shatter Islamic fundamentalism, to completely break the will of the Arabs and to totally shame them."
Fundamentalism in any form is bad. The problem is that there's too strong of a connection between conservative politics in this country and Christianity for the same conservatives to make an argument against fundamentalism. There is no difference between Islamic and Christian fundamentalism--both cause the same problems. Christian fundamentalism, because it exists in western states that are no longer theocracies, does not have the same influence over legislation as in Islamic nations but it is still fundamentalism. The goal here expressed by the author of this essay is the defeat of Islamic fundamentalism at the hands of Christian fundamentalism. Just because one becomes dominant over the other does not solve the root cause of the problem.
"Afghanistan and Iraq are the two parts of the consolidation phase of this war. al Qaeda had to be crippled and Saddam has to be destroyed in order to gain us time and adequate safety to go onto the offensive, and to begin the process which will truly end this war: to destroy Wahhabism, to shatter Islamic fundamentalism, to completely break the will of the Arabs and to totally shame them."
Fundamentalism in any form is bad. The problem is that there's too strong of a connection between conservative politics in this country and Christianity for the same conservatives to make an argument against fundamentalism. There is no difference between Islamic and Christian fundamentalism--both cause the same problems. Christian fundamentalism, because it exists in western states that are no longer theocracies, does not have the same influence over legislation as in Islamic nations but it is still fundamentalism. The goal here expressed by the author of this essay is the defeat of Islamic fundamentalism at the hands of Christian fundamentalism. Just because one becomes dominant over the other does not solve the root cause of the problem.
I read that entire article. I agree fully. Although what Mr.Fatbooty says I'd have to agree with to an extent. Christian fundamentalism just isn't the right label for it, but I understand your point of view. It’s not religious in nature, as the label Christian fundamentalism would suggest, but more a matter of cultures. I'd hate to make something so black and white, but if our two cultures can not co-exist, and the therefore the ONLY solution is the entire annihilation of us or them.... naturally I choose them.


