So you're saying everyone that believes in God is ignorant? That's nice.

 

faith ( P )
n.
1. Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing.
2. Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence. See Synonyms at belief. See Synonyms at trust.
3. Loyalty to a person or thing; allegiance: keeping faith with one's supporters.
often Faith Christianity.
4. The theological virtue defined as secure belief in God and a trusting acceptance of God's will.
5. The body of dogma of a religion: the Muslim faith.
6. A set of principles or beliefs.

Dictionary definition of faith for those of you who seem to not understand the word.

 

you are jumping to conclusions here darling. he means only believing in something b/c thats all you know is ignorance (at least i think so). I know christians (granted, they are few) that have researched other religions but realized that christianity is for them. Ignorance is knowing only one side of the story

 

And that's the problem w/ creationists.

 

No it is the problem with everyone actually.

No one has faith yet everyone has faith at the same time.

Evolutionists have faith that we evolved to our current state since there is no difinitive proof we did evolve.

Creationists or religious people have faith that their god created them, this world and the entire universe.

So as we argue simple semantics and try to prove each other wrong we are forgetting that each person believes how they believe...right or wrong...fact or falsehood....its all relative to the person who believes in whatever they believe in.

 

:werd:

 

it works sometimes. not 100% correct. regular run of the mill snails have been "carbon dated" and tested for length of life and several times a snail several weeks old has come up as "several hundreds of years old".

i will ask you then. show me in the Bible where the verses contradict themselves. and the other books that didnt "make it in the Bible"...do you even know how the books of the Bible were brought together??? you've repeated the same stuff many aethiests ive met in person and conversed with...yet just like them, i doubt you will have any concrete proof and knowledge to back your statements up, other than what "other people have told you".

and what makes you say that website is not biased? i can post several websites myself, and i know you and others will simply state that theyre biased....but of course the ones you post arent. right.
you demand proof, yet you make claims yourself without "proof". please, like i stated earlier, post these said contradictions in the Bible for me.

 

exactly :werd:

 

I'm not siding w/ evolutionists either. I've yet to see evidence to prove either way, but I have a bigger problem w/ creationists.

The bible wasn't written during the time of Jesus. It was passed down through oral tradition. Don't you think a little embellishment and fabrication goes on?

For me, though I haven't studied every theory out there, I have seen enough to deny it's accuracy.

I wish I had my religion professor here to talk to you guys.

 

Okay here goes...
In Judaism if you have anything with G-d's name written on it, you have to give it a "funeral" when you're done using it. Like when a Torah gets worn out they bury it out behind the synagogue with a ceremony and all.
Creationism is based solely on religion. Christian values and beliefs should not be imposed on public school children that are not Christian. Since creationism is a religious belief, we should not teach creationism in public schools where not all students are members of that religion. If you want your kid to learn about creationism in school, then send them to private school.
Every single thing in science is a theory. Have you ever taken a science class? Every scientific "fact" can be proven wrong by finding one contradictory scientific (i.e. not religious) example. It is the government's job to teach science regardless of any sort of conflict it may have with certain people's religion. Once again, if you don't like it then go to private school.
To repeat: that's what private school is for.
Evolution takes far more time than recorded human history. We have records that go back at most what 10,000 years (if you talk about like, ancient China) so there's no way we would be able to witness it as it happens. Evolution is a theory used to explain the fossil record. Like they say in the introduction to any science class, a theory is something that is accepted to be true because all of the evidence supports it but may at some time in the future be proven wrong by more actual evidence.
To repeat: evolution is an explanation of the fossil record. It is proven not by evidence that we are able to see as living things in the present time or at any ponit during recorded human history.Adaptation can be either an accquired trait (i.e. developed by the organism during its lifetime) or a genetic mutation. Accquired traits are not passed on to offspring, genetic mutations are. It still happens on such an inordinately large scale of time that there is no way recorded human history would be able to witness evolution as it occurs.
Creationism will always be rooted in religion. There can be scientific explanations of it, but it is still a religious belief and therefore cannot be proved in the absence of faith. While it may have some merits, there is no way that you can say with total certainty that what is written in the Bible means exactly what it says. It's been around for too long and translated too many times to not have been reinterpreted at some point. Additionally the whole thing was originally written down by humans. We all know that humans are falliable creatures (most religions state that only G-d is infalliable) so there could be any number of mistakes, exaggerations, omissions, etc.
It's still not science, it's religion. Therefore it is too much religion for schools whose entire purpose is to not teach religion. You want religion in your school? Go to a private school.
Wow I'm repeating myself again. If you want both to be taught, go to a private school. Creation is religion, and public schools don't teach religion. That's it.
The Bible is literature. It doesn't function as a factual source.