Czech CZ-52, roller locked (like HK rifles and subguns) in 7.62x25mm (.30 Mauser) (a serious knock-down cartridge):

an original Russian Makarov in 9x18mm Makarov

 

Not trying to pick a fight here, but what is it exactly about the S&W autos that cause you to make such a statement? Granted, first and second generation S&W autos were of questionable quality, but the third generation pistols are a very nice weapon. QC has improved greatly when compared to the first two generations.

I currently carry a model 4006 for duty purposes, and a 3913 for off duty. Both are very reliable, and there are no accuracy problems. For me, the trigger pull on a Berretta 92 style auto is WAY too long in DA. But hey, that's me.

Our weapons policy dictates that the pistol must have an decocker/blocker style "safety" that are found on Smith's and Beretta's. Thus we are limited to those two weapons.

For me, I've been extremely happy with S&W, and I wouldn't look anywhere else.

 

Para-ord 14.40 S&W LDA.... hahahaha. Mean shit there.




Or take a look at their new tac-four, 13+1 of compact .45 doom.

 

Just personal opinion. I have never liked the feel, or the reliability of S&W weapons. I also don't like tha magazine safety thing, if they still even have them. Not being able to fire a round if there is not a magazine loaded. I know the way around it, but I would rather not have to have the trigger half pressed before i change mazines, just in case. I prefer the feel of a glock anyday, and I've never had any of my glocks jam on me, and theres at least 5,000 round through each of them. But it all comes down to what you were trained on, and what you are comfortable with. Its all a matter of personal opinion.

 

yeah, my S&W still has that feature where it will not fire without a magazine. I guess its good for safety reasons, but if the shit is going down, and you drop your mag, you're screwed

 

You know, I have never given the magazine disconnect a second thought. It's just not an issue for me. If I am reloading, I am not dropping the mag until the new one is already in my hand and is on its way up to the magazine well. In a speed reload, it's just a blink of an eye. I will grant you, however, that a tactical reload, which is done in a more static situation, is not as fast, but it's still pretty quick. In either case, I am ready to go again with a fresh magazine. I can see being slowed down quite a bit if you fire that one shot, without the magazine, and still having to continue the fight. Now, you have to insert the magazine, (hopefully remember to) cycle the slide (because you can't go to slide lock without the mag), and then re-engage.

Personally, I can't speak to the Glocks, although I have heard rave reviews about them. You also confirm that. In my case, my Smith's have not malfunctioned at all. Again, third generation Smith's have vastly improved over the first two generations. In any event, your last two sentences are gospel. It does come down to your training, and you have to be comfortable with what you shoot. Lastly, it IS all a matter of opinion.

Stay safe.

 

The best thing I like about the glocks, is simplicity. No double action, no safety/decocker, just always ready to point and shoot. The one problem that alot of people have with them is that there is no phtsical safety mechanism on it. You just have to train yourself to keep your finger outside of the trigger guard until you've decided to fire. If your ever in NJ, give me a shout, and I'll let the glock speak for itself.

 

where i come from, i have never needed, or seen a situation where a gun was necessary. but you never know. when i turn 21 i think i might get one.

 

where in Jersey you live? I live right on the Bergen border

 

What a sec, no safety, no decocker and the first pull isn't double action?.... I dunno much (read: anything) about Glocks but that seems very inherently dangerous, training issues and mental awareness aside...

edit - nevermind I read something that explained it