Police Brutality Video not that far from me
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Police Brutality Video not that far from me
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An Internal Affairs investigation has been launched over a YouTube video that shows a 29-year-old man getting walloped repeatedly by a baton-wielding cop in West Philadelphia on Friday.
Police spokesman Lt. Frank Vanore said last night that Internal Affairs investigators are examining the video, which shows two and a half minutes of an encounter that cops had with Askira Sabur outside a takeout shop at 55th Street and Lansdowne Avenue. (Click here to view the video.)
Vanore said Sabur was among a group of men who were asked by a pair of patrol cops to leave the corner. Sabur instead allegedly knocked one of the cops to the ground, he said, although that portion of the encounter is not shown on the YouTube video.
Sabur's attorney, Evan Hughes, said Sabur didn't knock down the officer. "This guy was standing on the street corner, talking to his cousin," he said. "They tell him to get off the corner, and one cop pushes him on top of another cop."
From there, the incident appeared to turn ugly. One officer is shown on YouTube repeatedly striking Sabur in the head, back and arms while a crowd of onlookers howls in protest. The same officer is shown pulling out his handgun and briefly gesturing towards the crowd with the weapon before shoving it back into his holster. At least three other cops are shown hovering around Sabur during the incident.
Vanore said Sabur bit another officer and tried to grab the cop's gun during a brief struggle; he was later charged with aggravated assault and related offenses. There was likely more to the story, Vanore added, than what was shown on the brief video.
Sabur suffered a broken arm and needed numerous staples to close gashes on the back of his head after his encounter with police, his attorney said.
"If he tried to grab a gun, they would have shot him," Hughes said. "They're trying to justify this, and come up with things that he did not do."
Sabur, of Conestoga Street near Media, was sentenced to five years of probation in 2002 on an attempted burglary charge, court records show.
"He's not a bad guy," Hughes said. "They could have killed him. Lucky for him they didn't, but they certainly got close."
Police spokesman Lt. Frank Vanore said last night that Internal Affairs investigators are examining the video, which shows two and a half minutes of an encounter that cops had with Askira Sabur outside a takeout shop at 55th Street and Lansdowne Avenue. (Click here to view the video.)
Vanore said Sabur was among a group of men who were asked by a pair of patrol cops to leave the corner. Sabur instead allegedly knocked one of the cops to the ground, he said, although that portion of the encounter is not shown on the YouTube video.
Sabur's attorney, Evan Hughes, said Sabur didn't knock down the officer. "This guy was standing on the street corner, talking to his cousin," he said. "They tell him to get off the corner, and one cop pushes him on top of another cop."
From there, the incident appeared to turn ugly. One officer is shown on YouTube repeatedly striking Sabur in the head, back and arms while a crowd of onlookers howls in protest. The same officer is shown pulling out his handgun and briefly gesturing towards the crowd with the weapon before shoving it back into his holster. At least three other cops are shown hovering around Sabur during the incident.
Vanore said Sabur bit another officer and tried to grab the cop's gun during a brief struggle; he was later charged with aggravated assault and related offenses. There was likely more to the story, Vanore added, than what was shown on the brief video.
Sabur suffered a broken arm and needed numerous staples to close gashes on the back of his head after his encounter with police, his attorney said.
"If he tried to grab a gun, they would have shot him," Hughes said. "They're trying to justify this, and come up with things that he did not do."
Sabur, of Conestoga Street near Media, was sentenced to five years of probation in 2002 on an attempted burglary charge, court records show.
"He's not a bad guy," Hughes said. "They could have killed him. Lucky for him they didn't, but they certainly got close."
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i love these videos because they always show a very small portion of an incident. sure you have the cops beating the guy, from the video is it excessive? yea
but then you hear the other side and its, the guy shoved a cop / bit them / tried to go for a gun. is that true? who knows
but you know the truth is somewhere in the middle and to be honest if the guy did any of that he deserved getting the shit beat out of him. i love the statement that if he had gone for a gun they would have shot him. not true necessarily, they probably would have just beat the shit out of him . . . oh wait
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and jae to answer your question, if the crowd is getting unruly and he felt threatened of course he may have drawn his gun if he felt there was a possible threat. given the case that could easily have happened
but then you hear the other side and its, the guy shoved a cop / bit them / tried to go for a gun. is that true? who knows
but you know the truth is somewhere in the middle and to be honest if the guy did any of that he deserved getting the shit beat out of him. i love the statement that if he had gone for a gun they would have shot him. not true necessarily, they probably would have just beat the shit out of him . . . oh wait
h:and jae to answer your question, if the crowd is getting unruly and he felt threatened of course he may have drawn his gun if he felt there was a possible threat. given the case that could easily have happened
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I understand that, but all the other cops looked calm and appeared to be taking care of crowd control. To me it just looked like he was hot in the moment, wanted to show the crowd who was boss and brought the gun out. If he was by himself with maybe one other officer, then yes, I can see your logic, but with several other cops around who I am guessing who are carrying as well, the need to remove your focus from the perp and then point the gun at the crowd I feel was wrong.
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i don't care what color you are, you getting your ass beat by the cops i'm not gonna feel sorry for you. majority of cops aren't walking around looking for a fight, you gotta do something to instigate it or escalate it. odd's are that's true here. I could be wrong, but like i said, odds are on the side of the cops story being more truth than this guys
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i don't care what color you are, you getting your ass beat by the cops i'm not gonna feel sorry for you. majority of cops aren't walking around looking for a fight, you gotta do something to instigate it or escalate it. odd's are that's true here. I could be wrong, but like i said, odds are on the side of the cops story being more truth than this guys
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i don't care what color you are, you getting your ass beat by the cops i'm not gonna feel sorry for you. majority of cops aren't walking around looking for a fight, you gotta do something to instigate it or escalate it. odd's are that's true here. I could be wrong, but like i said, odds are on the side of the cops story being more truth than this guys
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You're telling me that it's completely likely that every one of those cops was fucked up. that the odds are that good that they would all be together in the same spot? no, i don't think so.
I'm not saying this isn't brutality i'm just saying that you can't use that one video as the sole evidence that it was in fact that. the video doesn't capture what happened prior to the incident nor does it capture the whole story. And the average person LOVEs to hate on police
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I hang around a lot of cops and yes some are bitter and disgruntled and i can understand why when i hear the stories. but for the most part, they aren't going to start beating the shit out of someone in front of a crowd for no reason. Nor are several fellow officers going to stand there and watch. Everyone likes to assume all cops are shit and out to get you and don't care.
You're telling me that it's completely likely that every one of those cops was fucked up. that the odds are that good that they would all be together in the same spot? no, i don't think so.
I'm not saying this isn't brutality i'm just saying that you can't use that one video as the sole evidence that it was in fact that. the video doesn't capture what happened prior to the incident nor does it capture the whole story. And the average person LOVEs to hate on police
You're telling me that it's completely likely that every one of those cops was fucked up. that the odds are that good that they would all be together in the same spot? no, i don't think so.
I'm not saying this isn't brutality i'm just saying that you can't use that one video as the sole evidence that it was in fact that. the video doesn't capture what happened prior to the incident nor does it capture the whole story. And the average person LOVEs to hate on police