If by impeached you mean accused by a legislative branch then yes he was by the House of Reps(258-176). But if you mean conviction then no he was not because the senate failed to produce a majority in agreement(46-54 on perjury; 50-50 on obstruction). Officially the only president to be impeached was Andrew Johnson.

 

I find it highly ironic to see someone who was beating the drum for war, saying that we couldn't take the time for the UN to do its job, flip-flop and say that it's just a matter of time.

The problem with the "matter of time" excuse is that it belies the Bush administration's claim that they knew 100% for sure that Iraq had WMD, and knew exactly where the are. We all saw the pictures. If there really was a cache of WMD, wouldn't that be the first thing that our troops would secure? The fact that it's been two whole months, and the alleged "smoking gun" has not been revealed, means that there is no smoking gun. They're going on a fishing trip. I'm sure they'll "find" something eventually. But since we were lied to once, how do we know that it wasn't just planted there?


I failed? Try again. I haven't been asked to acknowledge anything, and since the topic of this thread is the same as what I did talk about, I'm not concealing anything. I think by this time you know why you're resorting to the ad-hom attacks. You're wrong, but will not admit it.


Yes, there is a HUGE difference. Republican members of Congress made allegations against Clinton that they failed to prove, so they entrapped him, using evidence obtained through criminal means. So yes, Clinton crossed the line between self-defense, which every American citizen has a right to, and telling a slight falsehood about his personal life, which Congress has no right to meddle into in the first place. Bush lied outright in pursuit of his war agenda. People died as a result of what Bush did.



Pot, kettle, black. You're the one who can't seem to recall what happened less than 4 years ago.


Oh really? Please tell me exactly how that would work.


So you say. I have evidence to the contrary.


If there is so much proof, please explain why that proof has magically vanished with the US military in country?


OK, so you can do some name-calling. But exactly how does calling Bush's actions into question make me a miser? Sounds like you don't have your head screwed on straight...

 

:werd:

 

You're probably still hung on those chads in Florida as well, aren't ya. You can take your two cents to a Chixie Dicks concert. Because that's about the level of your intelligence.

 

auxiliary,

ya some good came out of it...lootings, now daily protests to get the americans out, more chances of terrorist acts against americans here and abroad....

waits for the day the u.s. does SOMETHING about N.Korea, oh thats right

American Foreign Policy, Must be changed dramatically...

 

Sorry SNL but you are once again wrong in your assumptions. We have already uncovered evidence of WMD that has been sent for further analysis. We have scientists and students that are coming forth and telling us that they were ordered to destroy and hide their work from the UN inspectors...evidence Iraq had spies in the UN inspection teams. I am not flip-flopping my position at all...it has stayed the same since day 1 and continues to be that way. Now that the US is in control of Iraq the iminent threat is no longer.

Not since the Clinton administration have we been lied to by a President...but good try on the conspiracy theory. Try getting someone of real inteligence to believe it.

When you said...

You were trying to impress upon the masses that this was the one and only justification for war. I simply pointed out to you that you failed to mention the other, equally important, reasons. Yup...you are wrong yet again.

There is a HUGE difference between Clinton and Bush and their actions in office. You have posted more lies in your above statement. There was no GOP entrapment! President Clinton got on national TV, waved his finger at the American people and said "I did not have sexual relations with that woman." That was one of the most blatant lies directly at the American people. He further lied in his sworn depostions to Congress. Basically he lied under oath! President Clinton dug his own grave and was made to lie in it. So show me where, outside of your own conspiracy theories and 1/2 truths that Bush lied to anyone. And you need to go beyond the whole argument that you do not like the man or his decisions. Those are not reasons to accuse someone of lying...otherwise you would be in a fascist state. Remember other people outside the Bush administration agreed with him...like I said both the House and Senate intellegence committees.

Lets here this evidence. But it has to be something substantial. Conspiracy theories, left wing propaganda, lies, false accusations, and 1/2 truths will not hold water.

 

So in the recent days following the fighting have they found difinitive proof of chemical weapons labs and the development of chemical weapons?

How about WMDs? have we found any of those as well?

Not that it matters much after the fact but just curious where all these weapons are and if we have found them yet.

 

It's a wast of time to argue with anyone left of the left. They think with emotions rather than brains. When it comes down to it, we live in very serious times and the President must make serious decisions. Bush has done that, utillizing the best intelligence sources and having the best at his disposal since his father, quite possibly the best ever. Keep in mind, Clinton severly cut millitary and intel. funding. Now, I'm not blaming 9/11 on Clinton or anyone except the animals who committed it. But the lack of funding, the confusion created by the counless governement offices not working together, and the confusion the Clinton administration created by the multiple offices did not help matters. Not to mention, Bush has taken millitary response for millitary attacks..... the way you're supposed to. What did Clinton do when the U.S.S. Cole was attacked? He sent the F.B.I. He sent the goddamn F.B.I. to investigate a millitary on millitary attack. That right there should've sent the 7th Armored Division right to BinLaden's front door. I remember wondering why we didn't go into war mode right there. As far as the strategy of war since Roman times, you hit a millitary vehicle and it is a declaration of war against that country.

 

nothing new. not a big deal when you look at the big picture.

nothing new.

 

Yeah, with all that human rights bullshit they tote around... just looking out for themselves, you know.