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Old Mar 9, 2003 | 09:41 AM
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Originally posted by wagon89
I think we should use Iraq as the "test site" to make sure are nuclear weapons work.
I'm amazed by the ignorance of that remark! For your information, that "test site" was Hiroshima, Japan and Nagasaki, Japan.


To quote a movie Wars cost money, we have to make commiting an act of terrorism against America and its people an unthinkable act. they kill one of are people we tacticaly nuke an entire city.
Nothing says "terrorist" quite like dropping an atom bomb on a city full of innocent civilians. Pot, kettle, black.
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Old Mar 9, 2003 | 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by Slow-N-Low
I'm amazed by the ignorance of that remark! For your information, that "test site" was Hiroshima, Japan and Nagasaki, Japan.



Nothing says "terrorist" quite like dropping an atom bomb on a city full of innocent civilians. Pot, kettle, black.
your ignorance shows in those statements.

first of all, there is nothing "terrorist" about attacking major weapons producing cities of a country you are at bloody war with.

second of all, the test site was Los Alamos, NM, not in Japan.

thirdly, at that time in history, the japanese were an adversary unlike any this country had ever faced before. they used suicide tactics and in ground war they fought like a swarm of bees. If the battle had continued to mainland Japan and fat man and little boy hadn't been dropped, the death toll would've been exponentially higher than it was. so, please, spare me your attempt to take the moral high ground on this subject. it's obvious you know little about it.
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Old Mar 9, 2003 | 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by Slow-N-Low
Actually Clinton was the one who sounded the alarm over Al Qaeda, the exact opposite of what you said! You must have forgotten that the obstructionist GOP-led Congress is what kept Clinton from taking out Al Qaeda. The GOP was more interested in their own political gain, and innocent Americans died. And now they're ignoring Al Qaeda again to put on this sham war. You can blame Democrats all you like, but making scapegoats doesn't save lives.
and clinton's feeble attempt to "sound the alarm" was nothing more than a ploy to take the spotlight off of his fancy for interns and the whitewater scandal. blame the GOP all you want, but if clinton wanted to do something about the situation besides his half-hearted attempts to get himself out of the political fire, he could've.
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Old Mar 9, 2003 | 09:30 PM
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Originally posted by Slow-N-Low
I'm amazed by the ignorance of that remark! For your information, that "test site" was Hiroshima, Japan and Nagasaki, Japan.



Nothing says "terrorist" quite like dropping an atom bomb on a city full of innocent civilians. Pot, kettle, black.

Terrorist they know who we are, they know we where coming. Japan struck first I think it was called Pearl Harbor. Then again maybe you missed class that day.
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Old Mar 10, 2003 | 05:14 PM
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Originally posted by /^Blackmagik^\
your ignorance shows in those statements.
You can call me names, but I can prove what an ignorant jackass you are:


first of all, there is nothing "terrorist" about attacking major weapons producing cities of a country you are at bloody war with.
That's a lovely straw man argument. But of course Iraq is a country, not a city. Small children know that, but it obviously escapes you. And the last time I checked, we are not "at bloody war" with Iraq, so your excuse is invalid. Even if we do go to war, dropping atomic bombs and killing millions of innocent civilians in this age of surgical air strikes and smart bombs is nothing short of mass murder.

The irony is not lost on me that red-toothed monsters such as yourself who advocate killing and destruction, using weapons of mass destruction against innocent civilians also use the excuse that it's all to stop the use of weapons of mass destruction against innocent civilians.


second of all, the test site was Los Alamos, NM, not in Japan.
That proves that you lack the brainpower to understand simple concepts like context. The analogy between the atomic attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki and "I think we should use Iraq as the "test site" to make sure are nuclear weapons work." are obvious to people who aren't imbeciles.

You even disgraced yourself by failing to understand that the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were built at Los Alamos, not tested there. Again you prove what an ignorant ass you are.


If the battle had continued to mainland Japan and fat man and little boy hadn't been dropped, the death toll would've been exponentially higher than it was.
That's a myth based on pure speculation. The truth is that when those bombs were dropped, Japan was already beaten, and was already negotiating surrender with the Soviets. And of course, the ironic excuse of killing millions to save thousands is totally bogus.


so, please, spare me your attempt to take the moral high ground on this subject. it's obvious you know little about it.
The facts prove that you're the ignorant fool who knows little about history. The fact that I am a moral person who chooses to do what is right and good, and you choose hatred and false pride only makes you look worse.
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Old Mar 10, 2003 | 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by /^Blackmagik^\
and clinton's feeble attempt to "sound the alarm" was nothing more than a ploy to take the spotlight off of his fancy for interns and the whitewater scandal. blame the GOP all you want, but if clinton wanted to do something about the situation besides his half-hearted attempts to get himself out of the political fire, he could've.
The fact is that Clinton fought Al Qaeda and Bush did nothing while Al Qaeda killed thousands of innocent Americans. No amount of excuses alters that fact.
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Old Mar 10, 2003 | 05:28 PM
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Originally posted by wagon89
Terrorist they know who we are, they know we where coming.
"I have met the enemy, and he is us."
--Pogo

"If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck."
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You can define "terrorists" as always being someone else, but it's what you do, not how you play with semantics that makes the difference.


Japan struck first I think it was called Pearl Harbor.
Bush wants the US to strike first. By your logic, that gives the world permission to nuke us into oblivion. <sarcasm>That's a great plan!<sarcasm>

Then again maybe you missed class that day.
Oh gee...another personal attack. Didn't your momma tell you that you shouldn't enter into a battle of wits unarmed?
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Old Mar 10, 2003 | 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by Slow-N-Low
That's a lovely straw man argument. But of course Iraq is a country, not a city. Small children know that, but it obviously escapes you. And the last time I checked, we are not "at bloody war" with Iraq, so your excuse is invalid. Even if we do go to war, dropping atomic bombs and killing millions of innocent civilians in this age of surgical air strikes and smart bombs is nothing short of mass murder

The irony is not lost on me that red-toothed monsters such as yourself who advocate killing and destruction, using weapons of mass destruction against innocent civilians also use the excuse that it's all to stop the use of weapons of mass destruction against innocent civilians.
no kidding, are you sure? nothing gets past you turbo(i hope you picked up on the sarcasm because it was laid on pretty thick). that statement was in reference to your allusion that the dropping of fat man and little boy were "terrorist" attacks. when they were dropped we WERE in bloody war. nice to see you still have trouble taking statements in context though. that alone further discredits most of your feeble arguments not to mention you blatant show of frustration that manifests its self in you calling other people names. welcome to 3rd grade i guess.

That proves that you lack the brainpower to understand simple concepts like context. The analogy between the atomic attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki and "I think we should use Iraq as the "test site" to make sure are nuclear weapons work." are obvious to people who aren't imbeciles.


wow, the irony. i fully understood what you were trying to say, the fact of the matter is that that perception is skewed beyond belief when you look at the facts.

You even disgraced yourself by failing to understand that the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were built at Los Alamos, not tested there. Again you prove what an ignorant ass you are.


i concede that point, however, at least i did get the state right. the first atomic tests were at trinity test site outside of alamogordo, NEW MEXICO. which, as a matter of fact, is about 260 miles from los alamos. the nevada test site wasn't opened until the early 50's. who "disgraced" who?

That's a myth based on pure speculation. The truth is that when those bombs were dropped, Japan was already beaten, and was already negotiating surrender with the Soviets. And of course, the ironic excuse of killing millions to save thousands is totally bogus.


when were millions killed. approximately 75,000 died at nagasaki, and approximately 80,000 at hiroshima. in what world does that add up to millions? and the kicker is.... they didn't even consider surrender until the second bomb had been dropped. i don't know where you get your speculation from, but the facts are there. you just have to look deeper than your own need to feel smart.

The facts prove that you're the ignorant fool who knows little about history. The fact that I am a moral person who chooses to do what is right and good, and you choose hatred and false pride only makes you look worse.
there ya go, calling names again. apparently i know more about history than you with your falsities that you try to pass off as fact. i think it's funny that you try to belittle me by saying the things that you do when in reality you know absolutely nothing about me. i happen to live by a strict standard of morals, but i, unlike you, seem to have the ability to use reason and common sense.
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Old Mar 10, 2003 | 07:09 PM
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Originally posted by Slow-N-Low
The fact is that Clinton fought Al Qaeda and Bush did nothing while Al Qaeda killed thousands of innocent Americans. No amount of excuses alters that fact.
yeah, tell that to our boys that are still going through caves and bunkers in the afghani countryside and see how long it takes you to get decked. i personally think that you have your presidents mixed up.
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Old Mar 10, 2003 | 08:20 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Slow-N-Low
[B]"I have met the enemy, and he is us."
--Pogo

If you don't like the United States then get out.



Bush wants the US to strike first. By your logic, that gives the world permission to nuke us into oblivion. <sarcasm>That's a great plan!<sarcasm>

Iraq has been in violation of a UN agreement for sometime.
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