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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 08:37 AM
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/san_francisco_prostitution

San Francisco weighs decriminalizing prostitution

By EVELYN NIEVES, Associated Press Writer Evelyn Nieves, Associated Press Writer – Tue Oct 21, 5:48 pm ET

SAN FRANCISCO – In this live-and-let-live town, where medical marijuana clubs do business next to grocery stores and an annual fair celebrates sadomasochism, prostitutes could soon walk the streets without fear of arrest.

San Francisco would become the first major U.S. city to decriminalize prostitution if voters next month approve Proposition K — a measure that forbids local authorities from investigating, arresting or prosecuting anyone for selling sex.

The ballot question technically would not legalize prostitution since state law still prohibits it, but the measure would eliminate the power of local law enforcement officials to go after prostitutes.

Proponents say the measure will free up $11 million the police spend each year arresting prostitutes and allow them to form collectives.

"It will allow workers to organize for our rights and for our safety," said Patricia West, 22, who said she has been selling sex for about a year by placing ads on the Internet. She moved to San Francisco in May from Texas to work on Proposition K.

Even in tolerant San Francisco — where the sadomasochism fair draws thousands of tourists and a pornographic video company is housed in a former armory — the measure faces an uphill battle, with much of the political establishment opposing it.

Some form of prostitution is already legal in two states. Brothels are allowed in rural counties in Nevada. And Rhode Island permits the sale of sex behind closed doors between consulting adults, but it prohibits street prostitution and brothels.

In 2004, almost two-thirds of voters in nearby Berkeley rejected decriminalization. But proponents of Proposition K say their proposal has a better shot in San Francisco, which they believe is more sexually liberal than the city across the bay.

After all, the world's oldest profession has long been established here. During the Gold Rush, the neighborhood closest to the piers was a seedy pleasure center of sex, gambling and drinking known as the Barbary Coast.

These days, on certain corners, prostitutes sell their bodies day and night, ducking into doorways and alleys when police pass by. One recent afternoon in the Mission District, six prostitutes were plying their trade on a single block.

Police made 1,583 prostitution arrests in 2007 and expect to make a similar number this year. But the district attorney's office says most defendants are fined, placed in diversion programs or both. Fewer than 5 percent get prosecuted for solicitation, which is a misdemeanor punishable by up to six months in jail.

Proposition K has been endorsed by the local Democratic Party. But the mayor, district attorney, police department and much of the business community oppose the idea, contending it would increase street prostitution, allow pimps the run of neighborhoods and hamper the fight against sex trafficking, which would remain illegal because it involves forcing people into the sex trade.

The San Francisco Chronicle editorialized against the measure, saying it could make the city a magnet for prostitution.

If the proposal passes, "we wouldn't be able to investigate prostitution, and it's going to be pretty difficult for us to locate these folks who are victims of trafficking otherwise," said Capt. Al Pardini, head of the police department's vice unit. "It's pretty rare that we get a call that says: 'I'm a victim of human trafficking' or 'I suspect human trafficking in my neighborhood.'"

The proposition would also prohibit police from accepting federal or state funds for sex trafficking investigations that involve racial profiling. Such investigations often arise from raids on brothels that advertise as Asian massage parlors.

"We feel that repressive policies don't help trafficking victims, and that human rights-based approaches, including decriminalization, are actually more effective," said Carol Leigh, co-founder of the Bay Area Sex Workers Advocacy Network and a longtime advocate for prostitutes' rights.

But San Francisco District Attorney Kamala Harris said the ballot question mistakenly assumes prostitution is a victimless crime.

"The crime of prostitution does not exist by itself," Harris said. "Along with it come pimps, johns and other crimes that really impact the safety of neighborhoods."

If the measure passes, supporters say, prostitutes would not feel the need for pimps as protection. But opponents insist it would embolden pimps who trap drug addicts into prostitution by plying them with drugs.

"The proponents usually paint a fairly rosy picture of two consenting adults and a monetary exchange at the end," Pardini said. "They don't factor in the people that are being exploited and people that are being controlled, the ones manipulated both physically and chemically."
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 08:39 AM
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bad idea

all it does is make it so prostitutes wont get arrested .... theres so much more to it. imo its going to allow for an even easier chance of women being abused and forced prostitution
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 08:41 AM
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Right but at the same time, prostitution being illegal is obviously not preventing any of that since it's still going on in record numbers. If anything, this would make it easier for those who want to get into the business to do so, possibly lowering the numbers of those forced into it.
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 08:41 AM
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Why not? Morals are so old fashioned.
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 08:41 AM
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as long as its controlled and they do testing and stuff like in denmark, who cares. too many puritans in this country h:
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 08:42 AM
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those crazy san franciscans. they all crazy. of course they even passed a measure that banned firearms within city limits... except for use by LEO and such.
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ShaolinLueb
as long as its controlled and they do testing and stuff like in denmark, who cares. too many puritans in this country h:
but they arent

all they are doing is saying they arent going to arrest people who are prostituting themselves anymore

its a bad idea.

if they want to have controls and regulations then im all for it. but if you are just saying you arent going to arrest people who are selling their bodies, well its a bad idea. its one of those industries thats always tied to other illegal activities
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 08:44 AM
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at the least id say its worth a shot. save money and if it doesnt work out then take it back
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by JessTD
but they arent

all they are doing is saying they arent going to arrest people who are prostituting themselves anymore

its a bad idea.

if they want to have controls and regulations then im all for it. but if you are just saying you arent going to arrest people who are selling their bodies, well its a bad idea. its one of those industries thats always tied to other illegal activities
Like drugs? Another victimless crime.

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those crazy san franciscans. they all crazy. of course they even passed a measure that banned firearms within city limits... except for use by LEO and such.
After DC v. Heller? :rofl:
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by JessTD
but they arent

all they are doing is saying they arent going to arrest people who are prostituting themselves anymore

its a bad idea.

if they want to have controls and regulations then im all for it. but if you are just saying you arent going to arrest people who are selling their bodies, well its a bad idea. its one of those industries thats always tied to other illegal activities
looks like the main point of decriminalizing is so they can unionize. if they do that, the union can set standards of health/testing etc. the reason why there aren't any "regulatory" rules in the proposition is because this is written not by a politician but a citizen.

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Like drugs? Another victimless crime.


After DC v. Heller? :rofl:
no prior to dc v. heller. i don't remember exactly but it was about 3 years ago. at the time no one thought it would pass but it did because people in SF are fuggin crazy.
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