Dec 9 - goin to war?
Originally posted by DVPGSR
And if it takes a war to get rid of Saddam Hussein that is still one step closer to world peace...a sort of "Win, Win" situation!
And if it takes a war to get rid of Saddam Hussein that is still one step closer to world peace...a sort of "Win, Win" situation!
If Bush were to go directly to war without any approval whatsoever it would cause him to be ousted by the senate regardless of their political views. Therefore, he has to ride in on the coattails of a national tragedy.
Disguised at first as a "War on terrorism" it quickly shifted into a personal assault on a man that George Sr. tried to go after for reasons that were also unclear and questionable (at least in my mind).
I may be wrong and I am more than wiling to admit when I am but I do not see Bush doing any good for our country and he is covering over this shortcoming by diverting peoples attention to the Middle East.
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Originally posted by /^Blackmagik^\
wow... you severely underestimate the readiness of our armed forces dude. the longest it would take to get all the troops necessary for an engagement such as iraq there and in action is 2 weeks tops. and that's not including the equipment and manpower that's already in the area.
let's just say that if dec 9 is the deadline and they don't comply.... dec 10'th we're fighting in the sand again.
wow... you severely underestimate the readiness of our armed forces dude. the longest it would take to get all the troops necessary for an engagement such as iraq there and in action is 2 weeks tops. and that's not including the equipment and manpower that's already in the area.
let's just say that if dec 9 is the deadline and they don't comply.... dec 10'th we're fighting in the sand again.
Originally posted by DVPGSR
OK let me rephrase my statement...it appears I did not clearly write what I was thinking. We have troops in the Gulf that can strike at Iraq at a moments notice. When and if Bush decides to attack Iraq America will be able to do so. However there is going to be some time that over the next month that the US will try and convince the rest of the security council that Iraq is lying...and then convince them that there must be a war. France and Russia will want a vote on it which will require more time. All the while the US will be moving the 250,000 or so troops to the Gulf that is going to require ousting Saddam. Once all diplomatic means are exhausted, or there is a unanimous vote we will then go to war. I do not think that this will happen at the earliest till February. Iraq has a government that the Unite Nations recognizes where as Afghanistan did not. It is hard to overthrow a leader who is part of the UN without the UNs approval.
OK let me rephrase my statement...it appears I did not clearly write what I was thinking. We have troops in the Gulf that can strike at Iraq at a moments notice. When and if Bush decides to attack Iraq America will be able to do so. However there is going to be some time that over the next month that the US will try and convince the rest of the security council that Iraq is lying...and then convince them that there must be a war. France and Russia will want a vote on it which will require more time. All the while the US will be moving the 250,000 or so troops to the Gulf that is going to require ousting Saddam. Once all diplomatic means are exhausted, or there is a unanimous vote we will then go to war. I do not think that this will happen at the earliest till February. Iraq has a government that the Unite Nations recognizes where as Afghanistan did not. It is hard to overthrow a leader who is part of the UN without the UNs approval.
Originally posted by /^Blackmagik^\
all that said... who's to say that those UN votes aren't already taking place and that the 250,000 or so troops you speak of aren't already there. no one but those who make these decisions knows at what stage this is in. once they say that for certain we're going to war sever battles will have already been fought. i'm personally thinking more like middle of december. say the 15th or so.
all that said... who's to say that those UN votes aren't already taking place and that the 250,000 or so troops you speak of aren't already there. no one but those who make these decisions knows at what stage this is in. once they say that for certain we're going to war sever battles will have already been fought. i'm personally thinking more like middle of december. say the 15th or so.
Originally posted by qtiger
There are already troops staging in Oman, for those of you thinking it will take us a long time to deploy. They've been there for 3 months.
There are already troops staging in Oman, for those of you thinking it will take us a long time to deploy. They've been there for 3 months.


