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Old Sep 4, 2008 | 09:20 AM
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What has Barack Obama ever done? She's done way more than he ever has.
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Old Sep 4, 2008 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by dubcac
What has Barack Obama ever done? She's done way more than he ever has.
First question, why are we comparing VP candidate to Presidental candidate? I'll entertain you, but I suggest we move experience debates to VP to VP, Pres to Pres.

Anyways, I'd consider Barack's experience more useful for president than hers.


Her experience:
Running a town without debt into 22 millions dollars of debt, and they still don't have sewage treatment? Check
Political appointee for an oil and gas commission, but no initiatives to prove from it? Check.
Gov of a state with less people than the 30 mile radius surrounding my house? Check
"Opposed" pork barrel projects, yet kept all the federal money from them? Check

The most useful thing she's done is prove that abstinence-only sex ed is effectively worthless.

Obama's experience:
Constitutional law lecturer? Check
Worked to register 150,000 voters and to help with job training in destitute communities? Check
Worked at a Civil Rights law firm? Check
Formed nonprofits to help youth? Check
Worked on the board of directors for Annenberg and Joyce foundations? Check
Was smart about the Iraq war? Check
Originally Posted by Obama in 2002
"Now let me be clear: I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power.... The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him. But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors...and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history. I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda. I am not opposed to all wars. I'm opposed to dumb wars. So for those of us who seek a more just and secure world for our children, let us send a clear message to the president."

And if I hear that "executive experience" excuse again, I'd like to remind you that she also has more "executive experience" than McCain as well.
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Old Sep 4, 2008 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by reno96teg
like so?

:bowdown:

Originally Posted by Epoch
First question, why are we comparing VP candidate to Presidental candidate? I'll entertain you, but I suggest we move experience debates to VP to VP, Pres to Pres.

Anyways, I'd consider Barack's experience more useful for president than hers.


Her experience:
Running a town without debt into 22 millions dollars of debt, and they still don't have sewage treatment? Check
Political appointee for an oil and gas commission, but no initiatives to prove from it? Check.
Gov of a state with less people than the 30 mile radius surrounding my house? Check
"Opposed" pork barrel projects, yet kept all the federal money from them? Check

The most useful thing she's done is prove that abstinence-only sex ed is effectively worthless.

Obama's experience:
Constitutional law lecturer? Check
Worked to register 150,000 voters and to help with job training in destitute communities? Check
Worked at a Civil Rights law firm? Check
Formed nonprofits to help youth? Check
Worked on the board of directors for Annenberg and Joyce foundations? Check
Was smart about the Iraq war? Check



And if I hear that "executive experience" excuse again, I'd like to remind you that she also has more "executive experience" than McCain as well.
Sorry but the only thing i see there that is an actual accomplishment is the non-profits. Wow, he got people to register to vote? I wonder why. :rofl:

Why are they comparing president to VP? Because obviously it's alot if the gop VP nominee has accomplished more than the dems' Pres nominee. :rofl:
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Old Sep 4, 2008 | 09:53 AM
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Education and work experience aren't accomplishments? I guess I shouldn't have gone to college then because it isn't an accomplishment.
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Old Sep 4, 2008 | 09:53 AM
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barack obama hates white people h:
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Old Sep 4, 2008 | 09:53 AM
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Has he ever written a bill in congress? Run any part of a government? Run a business even? Would you want someone who has never done any of that in charge of your country? I think that is a BIG mistake. I'd rather have Hillary as Pres than Obama. At least she knows how to get shit done.

I'll tell you why we are comparing VP to President. Everyone seems to harp on the VP candidate for issues that do not matter in how you do a job as VP (IE her family), but Obama's history of having no actual accomplishments has somehow vacated the media (much like his admission of drug use). Funny how that works, isn't it? It's also pretty funny how nobody mentions the things she has accomplished, but only talk about her family life and "alleged" bad things. All anybody talks about is how great of a guy Obama is, but never mention anything else.
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Old Sep 4, 2008 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by rebeld
barack obama hates white people h:
As much as you hate strippers h:
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Old Sep 4, 2008 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by dubcac
What has Barack Obama ever done? She's done way more than he ever has.

http://www.democraticunderground.com...ss=132x4578207

yeah she has done more
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Old Sep 4, 2008 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Anthony
Education and work experience aren't accomplishments? I guess I shouldn't have gone to college then because it isn't an accomplishment.
They are absolutely accomplishments, but not when you're trying to become the next president.
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Old Sep 4, 2008 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Anthony
As much as you hate strippers h:
god do i hate those damn sluts
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