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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by brtecson


You were the one that was trying to tie unions and universal healthcare together.
hm. no, i was saying that pro union politicians are also pro universal healthcare.
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 06:37 PM
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unions lol
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 08:34 PM
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Onions lol
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 08:54 PM
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Case in point:

"San Francisco’s six public courses, in fact, lose more than $1 million annually because of cumbersome union maintenance contracts. While one solution may be to outsource the operation of the courses to private companies, a more ominous possibility is that some courses will need to be shut down."
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by brtecson
My post was comparing the union jobs and non-union jobs at your former employer, not your current job.
Straw argument

If a union had been involved they would have demanded these things and threatened strike to get them.
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by brtecson
yes..
teamsters. there supose to be good but they don't do shit at my job
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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 08:27 PM
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I'm part of a union right now and all I can say it they haven't done shiet for me. Actually the only thing they've done so far is lose our pension money. Apparently they invested in in the wrong stocks and lost 30% of our pension. They just revised our contract recently and now we are paying $3 more a month for union dues. What I don't understand is why the hell would I want to pay more money to a union that lost my money in the first place? This is whack. Also I make less than a journeyman and yet I still have to pay the same dues. I don't see how that is fair.
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Nightshade
Straw argument

If a union had been involved they would have demanded these things and threatened strike to get them.
You cant deny that in the job you were fired from, the deal that you were getting was "almost" as good as the deal the union employees were getting because the company didn't want you to be union. In reality, if you want to call it negotiating or threating, your pay and benefits at that job were what they were because of the union.

Originally Posted by 93hondablk
teamsters. there supose to be good but they don't do shit at my job
What company and local?
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by S2Kev
I'm part of a union right now and all I can say it they haven't done shiet for me. Actually the only thing they've done so far is lose our pension money. Apparently they invested in in the wrong stocks and lost 30% of our pension. They just revised our contract recently and now we are paying $3 more a month for union dues. What I don't understand is why the hell would I want to pay more money to a union that lost my money in the first place? This is whack. Also I make less than a journeyman and yet I still have to pay the same dues. I don't see how that is fair.
A lot of people are losing money in their retirement from 2001-present due to the economy.
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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 02:09 PM
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the motto of unions
"Don't kill the job!!!!!"
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