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Old May 14, 2008 | 05:59 AM
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the fusion is a mad hot car too. the mustang and fusion are two of fords best sellers.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 06:01 AM
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i honestly don't think it looks that bad. much more classy looking than the previous generation IMHO
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Old May 14, 2008 | 06:11 AM
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the fords of today compared to the fords of 5 years ago are awesome. same thing with chevy and pontiac. they jsut have to get their reliability up a bit still..
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Old May 14, 2008 | 07:13 AM
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I don't think it's all that bad looking. I wouldn't sport it though. While GM and Ford have increased their quality over the last few years, they still seem cheap to me. Just not as cheap.

The problem with Ford and GM is that they're entry level economy vehicles still have a cheap tacky appearance. It gives me a bad taste about the rest of their vehicles that are probably just fine. I think an auto company should be judged by their entry level vehicles. Any auto maker can invest a lot of money into a high performance vehicle. Almost every auto maker (hell, even Hyundai) has some really nice kick ass high performance vehicles that they've built a few hundred or thousand of. But for an auto company to put out a half million economy cars that are solid as a rock, run forever and look good, that's impressive. GM and Ford have not done that. The Corolla, Civic and Sentra are good examples. The Cavalier and Focus are not. On the flip side, Dodge actually did a decent job with the Neon though so kudos to them.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Hans Stoner
true it may not get the BEST MPG, but for it's class, it's pretty good and, it does produce way lesss CO2 than most cars on the road... and the motor doesn't kick on till 30mph! thats pretty darn cool
the problem with the hybrid trend what do you do when the battery stops holding a charge where do you dispose of a 80lbs battery full of nasty chemicals.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by losiglow
But for an auto company to put out a half million economy cars that are solid as a rock, run forever and look good, that's impressive. GM and Ford have not done that. The Corolla, Civic and Sentra are good examples. The Cavalier and Focus are not. On the flip side, Dodge actually did a decent job with the Neon though so kudos to them.
are you kidding me?

seriously? are you?

the cavaliers maybe they dont look good to you but reliability wise they rival the civics. the focus is relatively new so overall reliability is yet to be really seen in terms of a long term basis.

as for the neon, never was there a bigger piece of crap that was dodge motors. the thing was one big pile of crap, the only thing going for it was its pricetag and that sadly was offset by the frequency with which it needed to be repaired

ford had the tempo, which maybe boxy but things run forever and you can beat them to piss.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 08:42 AM
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I had like 3 friends in high school with chevy corsicas and they all beat the living hell out of them. All had over 100k too
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Old May 14, 2008 | 08:45 AM
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it's fairly decent. I wouldn't push one, but it's not vomit inducing.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 09:01 AM
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i know a couple people that had tempos with 200k on them. the neons intake and exhausst headers were made of plastic. my sister had 2 neons, and both engines blew up on her. luckily they were repaired for liek 500 bucks.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by JCEN
I had like 3 friends in high school with chevy corsicas and they all beat the living hell out of them. All had over 100k too
oh man i forgot about the corisca ... and that reminds me of the berreta

god damn those things were bomb proof, we had a buddy with a corsica, if the trails werent to wet we would take that offroading instead of trucks cuz we could fit more people in 1 vehicle h:
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