View Poll Results: CCW...yes or no?
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CCW...YAY or NAY?
aka Heywoodjablowme
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From: Nashville, TN
Thanks for those stories, James. It takes first hand accounts from people for persons on the edge to understand it could happen to anyone. Thankfully I've not faced the necessity but I know that if the time comes, I will be armed.
Also I'm scheduled to take a Tactical Shotgun course in May and hopefully a couple Fighting Pistol and/or Rifle courses at some point as well.
Also I'm scheduled to take a Tactical Shotgun course in May and hopefully a couple Fighting Pistol and/or Rifle courses at some point as well.
it is a personal choice that i for one exercised. i don't carry as much as i did when i first got my carry permit, but when i feel the need, i do.
gf at the time of the 1st story also knew that there was a loaded revolver in my car at all times. she knew where it was & how to use it...if need be
aka Heywoodjablowme
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From: Nashville, TN
thanks...i wholeheartedly believe that it is a personal decision that every person has to make for themselves, but have always believed what my dad told people when asked why he carried a gun & if he worried about the ramifications from using it:
I'd rather be judged by 13 than carried by 6
meaning, i'd rather be in court defending myself & my actions than me or someone i cared about be dead cause i couldn't defend my life or theirs....
i know some people will see that quote as some "wild west" type saying, but if you hadn't noticed....it's a mad mad world
*climbs down off soapbox*
I'd rather be judged by 13 than carried by 6
meaning, i'd rather be in court defending myself & my actions than me or someone i cared about be dead cause i couldn't defend my life or theirs....
i know some people will see that quote as some "wild west" type saying, but if you hadn't noticed....it's a mad mad world
*climbs down off soapbox*
Last edited by James3370; Mar 10, 2008 at 05:24 PM.
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From: OR
i just dont want the association between guns and safety to be a given
its not that i think most people are using guns as evil, its that people are dumb, and i dont trust them
i dont feel safer with a gun, but i do feel safer with "you" not having one
"safety" is just a feeling, it doesnt mean you are any safer, and thats how i feel about guns, it gives people the feeling of safety, but places them in more danger because of it
i appreciate the stories about gun usage, and i am glad that those of you that have used a weapon in a dangerous situation are here to tell about it
its not that i think most people are using guns as evil, its that people are dumb, and i dont trust them
i dont feel safer with a gun, but i do feel safer with "you" not having one
"safety" is just a feeling, it doesnt mean you are any safer, and thats how i feel about guns, it gives people the feeling of safety, but places them in more danger because of it
i appreciate the stories about gun usage, and i am glad that those of you that have used a weapon in a dangerous situation are here to tell about it
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From: MI
i just dont want the association between guns and safety to be a given
its not that i think most people are using guns as evil, its that people are dumb, and i dont trust them
i dont feel safer with a gun, but i do feel safer with "you" not having one
"safety" is just a feeling, it doesnt mean you are any safer, and thats how i feel about guns, it gives people the feeling of safety, but places them in more danger because of it
i appreciate the stories about gun usage, and i am glad that those of you that have used a weapon in a dangerous situation are here to tell about it
its not that i think most people are using guns as evil, its that people are dumb, and i dont trust them
i dont feel safer with a gun, but i do feel safer with "you" not having one
"safety" is just a feeling, it doesnt mean you are any safer, and thats how i feel about guns, it gives people the feeling of safety, but places them in more danger because of it
i appreciate the stories about gun usage, and i am glad that those of you that have used a weapon in a dangerous situation are here to tell about it
and as for the age to carry ... its 21
aka Heywoodjablowme
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From: Nashville, TN
i just dont want the association between guns and safety to be a given
its not that i think most people are using guns as evil, its that people are dumb, and i dont trust them
i dont feel safer with a gun, but i do feel safer with "you" not having one
"safety" is just a feeling, it doesnt mean you are any safer, and thats how i feel about guns, it gives people the feeling of safety, but places them in more danger because of it
i appreciate the stories about gun usage, and i am glad that those of you that have used a weapon in a dangerous situation are here to tell about it
its not that i think most people are using guns as evil, its that people are dumb, and i dont trust them
i dont feel safer with a gun, but i do feel safer with "you" not having one
"safety" is just a feeling, it doesnt mean you are any safer, and thats how i feel about guns, it gives people the feeling of safety, but places them in more danger because of it
i appreciate the stories about gun usage, and i am glad that those of you that have used a weapon in a dangerous situation are here to tell about it
think about it...if you were a criminal, wouldn't you be less likely to try to rob somebody if you knew there was a chance that they were armed as well??
i'm just sayin.....
yes, there are some stupid, crazy mofo's that own guns, but i think as long as i'm not breaking the law, your percevied "fear" of me or somebody else who choses to carry a gun to protect myself or people i care about doesn't matter for shit
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i just dont want the association between guns and safety to be a given
its not that i think most people are using guns as evil, its that people are dumb, and i dont trust them
i dont feel safer with a gun, but i do feel safer with "you" not having one
"safety" is just a feeling, it doesnt mean you are any safer, and thats how i feel about guns, it gives people the feeling of safety, but places them in more danger because of it
i appreciate the stories about gun usage, and i am glad that those of you that have used a weapon in a dangerous situation are here to tell about it
its not that i think most people are using guns as evil, its that people are dumb, and i dont trust them
i dont feel safer with a gun, but i do feel safer with "you" not having one
"safety" is just a feeling, it doesnt mean you are any safer, and thats how i feel about guns, it gives people the feeling of safety, but places them in more danger because of it
i appreciate the stories about gun usage, and i am glad that those of you that have used a weapon in a dangerous situation are here to tell about it
Please explain your opinion that people with ccw are in more danger. I don't see it.
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From: Florida
Then whos to say you having a gun will prevent the crime? Unless you are able to strike first, then I dont see any good coming out of it.
Obviously its a different story if they have an inferior weapon though, but if thats the case, disarming them "should" be easier and shouldnt require you shooting them.
Ive never been in these type of situations though, but not many have.
Last edited by SlowRolla; Mar 10, 2008 at 06:25 PM.
aka Heywoodjablowme
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From: Nashville, TN
Then whos to say you having a gun will prevent the crime? Unless you are able to strike first, then I dont see any good coming out of it.
Obviously its a different story if they have an inferior weapon though, but if thats the case, disarming them "should" be easier and shouldnt require you shooting them.
Ive never been in these type of situations though, but not many have.
Obviously its a different story if they have an inferior weapon though, but if thats the case, disarming them "should" be easier and shouldnt require you shooting them.
Ive never been in these type of situations though, but not many have.
story #1....crime stopped cause i was armed as well. criminals prefer an unarmed victim.
story #2....person w/ an inferor weapon, but crazed...crazy is a wild card ya know. i "disarmed" him cause i was legally armed with a superior weapon. if i had chosen to kill him, i could have. in the fraction of a second i had to react, i chose to shoot him in the shoulder in the hopes that it would stop &/or disarm him....which it did. i have no doubt that if it hadn't, the 2nd shot(or however many it took) i would have tried for center mass to kill him. if it had come down to the choice in his life or mine, then i chose me
thankfully, the state i live in realizes that the police or legal court orders can't protect you 100% of the time & allow me the freedom to protect my life & the lives of people i care about
that being said, i believe there is a place for some forms of gun control & that there also should be stiffer penalties for those that use guns to break the law
Last edited by James3370; Mar 10, 2008 at 06:32 PM.