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Iraq war czar: Consider a draft

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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by redgoober4life
what about fegs? and lesbians?
well my assumptions and this is based on what i think would make sense. currently its a dont ask dont tell policy. the military's official stance is they accept them but unofficially they are shunned and usually treated poorly and bullied. most of the time if its known they are gay, there are plenty of attempts to force them out through extra pressure.

i think in the case of a dire need for soldiers, it would be just like the civil war and the world wars where blacks werent really allowed to serve and those who did were only allowed in certain support positions. But, once the need for troops became great enough blacks were encouraged to serve, albeit in their own segregated units but the military laxed and brought them in because the need outweighed the opinions of those who were against it.

i think you would see the military become more open to gays serving, maybe not more hospitable or more friendly towards them, but more willing to look away just that much more because its one more body on the battlefield
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by MarshyTheKid
If we do, I'm going to the tattoo shop to get a small tattoo on my hairline. Any tattoo on the face disqualifies you from military.
Why don't you just go into the recruiter's office arm in arm with another man and say you're lovers? That would be a lot easier.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by redgoober4life
what about fegs? and lesbians?
As long as marshy doesn't tell them. :dunno:
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by rebeld
well my assumptions and this is based on what i think would make sense. currently its a dont ask dont tell policy. the military's official stance is they accept them but unofficially they are shunned and usually treated poorly and bullied. most of the time if its known they are gay, there are plenty of attempts to force them out through extra pressure.

i think in the case of a dire need for soldiers, it would be just like the civil war and the world wars where blacks werent really allowed to serve and those who did were only allowed in certain support positions. But, once the need for troops became great enough blacks were encouraged to serve, albeit in their own segregated units but the military laxed and brought them in because the need outweighed the opinions of those who were against it.

i think you would see the military become more open to gays serving, maybe not more hospitable or more friendly towards them, but more willing to look away just that much more because its one more body on the battlefield
lmao. God fucking bless America.

You're not good enough until we need you to die.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JGordon
Why don't you just go into the recruiter's office arm in arm with another man and say you're lovers? That would be a lot easier.
He'll do that by default.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by IluvJae
Deserter checking in :hsugh:
i think deserter isnt the term i wanted ... if the draft was enacted and you said fuck it im moving ot another country then fine ... now live in that country and be a citizen there

but dont attempt to circumvent the systems in place here and still attempt to garner all the benefits of a US citizen living in the US when you shun a duty that is expected of you when asked
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 07:40 AM
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Janna it's ok. We'll both get Hanzo swords and go rogue.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 07:40 AM
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probably too fat h:

I would have mixed feelings about being drafted into this war. If it was something like WW2, I wouldn't hesitate.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by EriksShadow
lmao. God fucking bless America.

You're not good enough until we need you to die.
sad but true

and i cant say i dont understand some of the reasoning behind it. not that its something to be explained over the internet. but i believe the military has a few points that deserve some merit as to why they may not want gays serving in the military.

down the road you will more than likely see gays easily integrated into the modern military, but i believe it will take time and some restructuring within the armed forces for it to happen effectively
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by redgoober4life
Janna it's ok. We'll both get Hanzo swords and go rogue.
Fuck yeah.

Totally with you on that one. Only if I get to storm the government tho.
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