P.S. Sorry guys, didn't mean to post in the wrong section...

 

yeah, i know what bankrupt means, but thanks for the reminder.

so, once again, GM is going bankrupt because of unions.

 

K, so how much money they make has nothing to do with how many cars they sell, then. Point taken, after all, i guess i was mistaken when i thought they were AN AUTOMOBILE MANUFACTURER. sorry

 

Unions.... ok maybe.

But having cars that look like this... really doesn't help. :chuckles:

 

Never owned a GM and never will. Not saying that theyre not dep, I just dont like them.

 

It's all about perception. Old people are used to driving much older and much more unreliable cars from all their years of driving and so when you compare those older cars to a newer Buick, a newer Buick is more reliable. They just don't realize how reliable a newer Honda is in comparion to a newer Buick.

 

granted the 99-04 grand am's and alero's were a poor design, thats why they discontinued them so quickly. but to pick one gm car and say that the entire product family is horrible is a gross overstatement. i personally own three gm vehicles that all have over 180,000 miles on them and they run so strong i have no plans on replacing them. and from my personal and professional experience GM vehicles do require less maintenence than the majority. look at some of the other manufactorers: chrysler; major transmission issues with vehicles from the early nineties to early 2000's, the 2.7 motor is notoriours for breaking down(i have shops that do rebuilds on 7-9 a month), the track bar in the dodge trucks go out quite frequently on 98% of them. Ford; dont even get me started on ford, the explorer from conception in 94 to in my opinion 2004 was one of the most failure and accident prone vehicles ive ever seen, the focus for the first 2 or 3 years had flaws that would allow it to catch on fire for no reason. i could go on and on about each manufactor, so dont say because GM designs "crappy" vehicles thats why they are failing and that their vehicles are not reliable at all

GM's problems do not stem from poor vehicle design or poor vehicle maitenence but rather competition from mainly the asian market. look at the trends over the last 10 years and you will see a rise in asian vehicles in the US not because of build quality but because of improved fuel mileage over competing US models, lower costs which are generally associated with lower governmental regulations and non-unionized work forces. It's a major advantage when a car manufactoror doesn't have a union telling them how to run their business and forcing them to improve wages and offer more money every year.

It all boils down to over diversification and too much power and hunger from the unions

 

fyi gm is not the only one to have gone to plastic intake manifolds, ford has as well as well as chrysler on select models; and they all have issues with cracking, what they did is on most of them the oe unit was designed with too thin of walls especially around the egr port and the aftermarket and redesigned oe one corrects this problem. again u are pickin one issue that has been corrected and harping a manufactor

 

yea, we had a bronco II...got some money from a lawysuit about the whole fuse box being located next to the exhaust manifold and meltinh itself apart, lol.

then my mom insisted on buying the neighbors mustang

if we got a blazer instead of the bronco II, im sure we'd have it by now, 3 clutches within 100k miles, thats some weak shit.

 

My dad had a mustang that would frequently loose reverse. Had it repaired and repaired.

From what I remember he said that something in the transmission was made of brass and kept breaking. :dunno: