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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by lufkintravis
Bankrupt means that your assets < your liabilities... Oh sh*t - webters online dictionary - "Someone who has insufficient assets to cover their debts." I hit the nail on the head that time... If they sold enough cars to cover thier debts, they wouldn't be losing money... Their cars are "on sale" every day and they still can't move them. it's a bad thing when people finally figure out that you're screwing them isn't it?
sales are in a slump for GM but that isnt the underlying reason behind their bankruptcy. like stated the unions are what are having the huge crash for GM. The union labor rates are so high and benefits are so out of proportion for the work provided that GM is throwing more money than they can afford at their labor force. only problem is they cant do anything about it because the unions would call a strike if they didnt get what they wanted, then these automakers would really be in trouble. So GM in order to survive has to do one of two basic things; either lower costs of making these vehicles or raise the msrp on these vehicles. there are other things they could do to stem the bleeding but the biggest improvement they could have would be to lower overhead but they can do neither because if they raise prices they would be unable to compete with the rising pressure from the asian market. and they are unable to lower their overhead because the unions for the most part will refuse to concessions becuase that means they themselves as an orginization lose money. The unions have GM and ford for that matter between a rock and a hard place and they know it.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by lufkintravis
K, so how much money they make has nothing to do with how many cars they sell, then. Point taken, after all, i guess i was mistaken when i thought they were AN AUTOMOBILE MANUFACTURER. sorry
You're a fucking idiot. How much money they make has a lot to do with HOW MUCH MONEY THEY MAKE PER CAR, and they're not making any because of unions. Get back in your Honda Civic and drive off a cliff.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 08:36 AM
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You're a fucking idiot. How much money they make has a lot to do with HOW MUCH MONEY THEY MAKE PER CAR, and they're not making any because of unions. Get back in your Honda Civic and drive off a cliff.
mmm i wanted to say it but i was tryin to be nice...thanks for being the class asshole

its really annoying when people blame the domestic markets slump on poor vehicle quality and price gouging. these are people who dont see that theres more to a business being profitable and staying afloat then the number of products they sell.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 98CoupeV6
You're a fucking idiot. How much money they make has a lot to do with HOW MUCH MONEY THEY MAKE PER CAR, and they're not making any because of unions. Get back in your Honda Civic and drive off a cliff.
Where the hell you get civic from?
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 08:41 AM
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Dodge doesn't have a union?
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by lufkintravis
Dodge doesn't have a union?
The UAW is doing just as much to DAIMLER-CHRYSLER as they are to any other automaker, but the relationship that they have with GM is much deeper and much more debilitating. DCX loses money on every car they make, just like GM does.

I got Honda Civic because you sound like the typical ricer punk who lives in America and hates American vehicles even though he's never owned one. American cars in the 80s and 90s sucked and had tons of problems, but now they're overengineered just like the "imports". I'll take a Sky and a Tahoe thanks.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 98CoupeV6
The UAW is doing just as much to DAIMLER-CHRYSLER as they are to any other automaker, but the relationship that they have with GM is much deeper and much more debilitating. DCX loses money on every car they make, just like GM does.

I got Honda Civic because you sound like the typical ricer punk who lives in America and hates American vehicles even though he's never owned one. American cars in the 80s and 90s sucked and had tons of problems, but now they're overengineered just like the "imports". I'll take a Sky and a Tahoe thanks.
overengineered, sky, tahoe? U just talking crazy, bich, CRAZY lol
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by lufkintravis
overengineered, sky, tahoe? U just talking crazy, bich, CRAZY lol
crazy? ive owned 3 different tahoes...spanning both design changes and they are by far the best american suv ive ever driven, not to mention i think they are nicer than alot of the price comparable import suv's.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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I have a Saturn Ion Redline. Yes, there have been a problem....or six that should'nt of happened. But maybe i just tapped into a bad bunch of Redlines. :shrug:
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by lufkintravis
overengineered, sky, tahoe? U just talking crazy, bich, CRAZY lol
I see you speak from vast amount of experience working with GM.
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