Study: Prayer doesn't affect heart patients
One of the research projects we have going on in my office is trying to figure out how women's beliefs about their odds of getting breast cancer compare to the real odds of them getting breast cancer. Kind of trying to figure out how well-educated the public is regarding breast cancer. A co-worker recently had this conversation with a patient:
(my coworker first obtained demographic information for this patient, and in the process the patient stated that she was Jewish)
Coworker: Would you say you have a low risk, medium risk, or high risk of getting breast cancer at some point in your life?
Patient: Oh, I'm never going to get any type of cancer.
Coworker: Really? Why do you say that?
Patient: I have a pact with Jesus.
Coworker: um... Jesus? I thought you said you were Jewish?
Patient: Well, Jesus was a Jew, wasn't he?
Some people are just so odd that's it's fun.
(my coworker first obtained demographic information for this patient, and in the process the patient stated that she was Jewish)
Coworker: Would you say you have a low risk, medium risk, or high risk of getting breast cancer at some point in your life?
Patient: Oh, I'm never going to get any type of cancer.
Coworker: Really? Why do you say that?
Patient: I have a pact with Jesus.
Coworker: um... Jesus? I thought you said you were Jewish?
Patient: Well, Jesus was a Jew, wasn't he?
Some people are just so odd that's it's fun.
Originally Posted by JGordon
One of the research projects we have going on in my office is trying to figure out how women's beliefs about their odds of getting breast cancer compare to the real odds of them getting breast cancer. Kind of trying to figure out how well-educated the public is regarding breast cancer. A co-worker recently had this conversation with a patient:
(my coworker first obtained demographic information for this patient, and in the process the patient stated that she was Jewish)
Coworker: Would you say you have a low risk, medium risk, or high risk of getting breast cancer at some point in your life?
Patient: Oh, I'm never going to get any type of cancer.
Coworker: Really? Why do you say that?
Patient: I have a pact with Jesus.
Coworker: um... Jesus? I thought you said you were Jewish?
Patient: Well, Jesus was a Jew, wasn't he?
Some people are just so odd that's it's fun.
(my coworker first obtained demographic information for this patient, and in the process the patient stated that she was Jewish)
Coworker: Would you say you have a low risk, medium risk, or high risk of getting breast cancer at some point in your life?
Patient: Oh, I'm never going to get any type of cancer.
Coworker: Really? Why do you say that?
Patient: I have a pact with Jesus.
Coworker: um... Jesus? I thought you said you were Jewish?
Patient: Well, Jesus was a Jew, wasn't he?
Some people are just so odd that's it's fun.
Originally Posted by ISP James
probably true. what are they hoping to accomplish with this survey.
1. do they expect people to stop praying?
2. does it hurt them or otherwise hinder their quality of life when people pray?
3. don't they have something better to do?
what a bunch of bullshit, let people worship as they please. they arent hurting anybody
1. do they expect people to stop praying?
2. does it hurt them or otherwise hinder their quality of life when people pray?
3. don't they have something better to do?
what a bunch of bullshit, let people worship as they please. they arent hurting anybody

Originally Posted by clickwir
"In fact, patients who knew they were being prayed for had a slightly higher rate of complications."
Nope, couldn't hurt at all.
Nope, couldn't hurt at all.

Originally Posted by tegbooster
[religious flamesuit]
there is a psychological reason as to why people would recover slower and suffer from more complications when they are heavily religious and know they are being prayed for. Many people in the unconcious are always fighting some sort of battle. And in the patients case, it would be battle with recovering from heart surgery. They will give up on the battle because their maker would be there for them to fix it...
[/religious flamesuit].. just a thought :dunno:
there is a psychological reason as to why people would recover slower and suffer from more complications when they are heavily religious and know they are being prayed for. Many people in the unconcious are always fighting some sort of battle. And in the patients case, it would be battle with recovering from heart surgery. They will give up on the battle because their maker would be there for them to fix it...
[/religious flamesuit].. just a thought :dunno:
Originally Posted by clickwir
You're assuming there's another side to the coin. 

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Originally Posted by 95SiR
what makes that a "fact"?? just because its stated? without any numbers from stats taken by an unbiased third party, i dont believe any of it.
Originally Posted by 95SiR
who's to say there isnt another side? and if there is another side, who's to say which side is right? and if there isnt another side, who's to say what is right on the single side?
h: things have happen that good old science cant prove, and things have happen that science has proven.... believe in what you think is right
h:im both
h: no one has every said i have to pick a side
Originally Posted by clickwir
Actually did you read the article? I don't think I need to quote it again to prove someone wrong.
Originally Posted by clickwir
Actually did you read the article? I don't think I need to quote it again to prove someone wrong.
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01.14.1979 - 11.19.2008
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