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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 12:39 PM
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One of the research projects we have going on in my office is trying to figure out how women's beliefs about their odds of getting breast cancer compare to the real odds of them getting breast cancer. Kind of trying to figure out how well-educated the public is regarding breast cancer. A co-worker recently had this conversation with a patient:

(my coworker first obtained demographic information for this patient, and in the process the patient stated that she was Jewish)

Coworker: Would you say you have a low risk, medium risk, or high risk of getting breast cancer at some point in your life?
Patient: Oh, I'm never going to get any type of cancer.
Coworker: Really? Why do you say that?
Patient: I have a pact with Jesus.
Coworker: um... Jesus? I thought you said you were Jewish?
Patient: Well, Jesus was a Jew, wasn't he?


Some people are just so odd that's it's fun.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JGordon
One of the research projects we have going on in my office is trying to figure out how women's beliefs about their odds of getting breast cancer compare to the real odds of them getting breast cancer. Kind of trying to figure out how well-educated the public is regarding breast cancer. A co-worker recently had this conversation with a patient:

(my coworker first obtained demographic information for this patient, and in the process the patient stated that she was Jewish)

Coworker: Would you say you have a low risk, medium risk, or high risk of getting breast cancer at some point in your life?
Patient: Oh, I'm never going to get any type of cancer.
Coworker: Really? Why do you say that?
Patient: I have a pact with Jesus.
Coworker: um... Jesus? I thought you said you were Jewish?
Patient: Well, Jesus was a Jew, wasn't he?


Some people are just so odd that's it's fun.
Obvu=iously not a very faithful Jew. There are trials in our lives brought to us by God. I think of my grandmother who had breast cancer. It completely dissapeared when she went in for a checkup. I honestly believe this is because we (all of her family) prayed ernestly for her.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by clickwir
You're assuming there's another side to the coin.
and you're assuming the food you eat everyday isnt poisoned h:

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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ISP James
probably true. what are they hoping to accomplish with this survey.

1. do they expect people to stop praying?
2. does it hurt them or otherwise hinder their quality of life when people pray?
3. don't they have something better to do?

what a bunch of bullshit, let people worship as they please. they arent hurting anybody
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Originally Posted by clickwir
"In fact, patients who knew they were being prayed for had a slightly higher rate of complications."

Nope, couldn't hurt at all.
what makes that a "fact"?? just because its stated? without any numbers from stats taken by an unbiased third party, i dont believe any of it.

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there is a psychological reason as to why people would recover slower and suffer from more complications when they are heavily religious and know they are being prayed for. Many people in the unconcious are always fighting some sort of battle. And in the patients case, it would be battle with recovering from heart surgery. They will give up on the battle because their maker would be there for them to fix it...

[/religious flamesuit].. just a thought :dunno:
those types of "religious people" are usually spiritually immature (in the sense that their belief in religion hasnt fully developed yet)... but this is in reference to the self-proclaimed Christians... this doesnt illegitamize their belief, but just simply saying that it hasnt fully developed and/or they havent gotten a complete grasp of it.

Originally Posted by clickwir
You're assuming there's another side to the coin.
who's to say there isnt another side? and if there is another side, who's to say which side is right? and if there isnt another side, who's to say what is right on the single side?
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 12:58 PM
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what a load of shit..

like it's a fucking problem if people have faith.. why even bother with such a bullshit study, except to push some kind of fucked up agenda?
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 95SiR
what makes that a "fact"?? just because its stated? without any numbers from stats taken by an unbiased third party, i dont believe any of it.
Actually did you read the article? I don't think I need to quote it again to prove someone wrong.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 95SiR
who's to say there isnt another side? and if there is another side, who's to say which side is right? and if there isnt another side, who's to say what is right on the single side?
basically u cant have a right or wrong answer to a question with unknown solutions and various variables h: things have happen that good old science cant prove, and things have happen that science has proven.... believe in what you think is right h:

im both h: no one has every said i have to pick a side
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ISP James
let people worship as they please. they arent hurting anybody
Unless youre an extremist...and we all know who Im talking about...
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by clickwir
Actually did you read the article? I don't think I need to quote it again to prove someone wrong.
but honestly thats not really to say thats a consistent occurance. its but a minute chunk of our population. Ive heard of people praying to ganish and the people they prayed for felt better from there sickness. Would it have been a different case if they praid to jesus, the devil, how bout AF?
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by clickwir
Actually did you read the article? I don't think I need to quote it again to prove someone wrong.
yeah and did you read my response? who the f*ck is Dr. Herbert Benson??? just cuz he's a doctor at Harvard, his word is fact? his motives are fact?
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