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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Tark
a plane does not rely on thrust to flight... but on lift.
It gets its lift by thrusting itself forward through air. NO THRUST = NO LIFT
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 08:47 AM
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WOW, second to last time i am done talking to u idiots.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Kestrel
Lift is generated as long as the plane can move forward. That's where the thrust comes in.
An airplane flies due to the aerodynamic reactions that happen when air passes at high speed over the wing.

When air passes over the wing, it is forced to pass underneath or over top of it. The length of the wing is larger on the top portion, so according to laws of aerodynamics, the air flow becomes faster, to compensate the larger distance to be travelled. This significantly diminishes the pressure of air on the wing; the difference of pressure under and over the wings creates the necessary lift for flight.

on a belt that would not happen because the plane it not actually moving it staying still... the only movement are the wheels.


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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 08:48 AM
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Lets also try this, for those more simple minded.

Lets say you and a friend happen to have a toy plane and your fat moms treadmill. Put the toy plane on the treadmill so it would be facing the front (as if you were walking on it and facing forward). Now if your homo friend turns on the treadmill, the plane will fall off the back. Seems normal enough right?

Ok, now hold onto the plane with your hand. Have your friend turn on the treadmill on low. Can you still move the plane forward on the treadmill? Sure you can! The wheels will be spinning faster, but since the plane is not getting it's force from the wheels, it's getting it's forward moving force from you, it will still be able to move forward no matter what the wheels are doing.

Go ahead and have some fun and turn the treadmill on high/full speed. Can you still move the toy plane forward? OF COURSE YOU CAN. It's very simple. The toy plane and the real plane don't use the wheels for forward movement. They get their thrust from you or the planes engines. Sure the wheels will be spinning really fast, but that won't stop the plane from moving foward.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Tark
a plane does not rely on thrust to flight... but on lift.
Ah grasshopper, but it does. The plane's wings cannot generate lift if it does not move forward. However the plane will be moving forward just fine because it uses THRUST from the engines, not from the wheels.

Thrust moves the plane foward.
Moving forward generates lift.
Lift, well, lifts the plane off the ground.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Highmile
It gets its lift by thrusting itself forward through air. NO THRUST = NO LIFT
but if on a belt it doesnt actually goes THROUGH air... thrus makes plane go through air. wing thought air=lift.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by clickwir
Ah grasshopper, but it does. The plane's wings cannot generate lift if it does not move forward. However the plane will be moving forward just fine because it uses THRUST from the engines, not from the wheels.

Thrust moves the plane foward.
Moving forward generates lift.
Lift, well, lifts the plane off the ground.
but the air arround the plane will not be moving! think of it! it's like a car on a dyno... is air moving arround the car when on dyno? NO

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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 08:58 AM
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can u people read wat i freaken say? WOW! read the god damn mofo question!

^that is the last time h:
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 08:59 AM
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Back in the original question, the plane doesn't move forward then the conveyor doesn't move at all. So it's relative. If the plane doesn't move then the conveyor doesn't move. If the plane moves forward THEN the conveyor will move backwards. They conveyor is directly proportional to the plane. Unless the plane is actually moving forward the conveyor is doing nothing, it's not moving. So the plane has to be moving forward for anything to happen. If the plane is moving forward then it can generate lift and thus fly to New York.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by [Damnit]
can u people read wat i freaken say? WOW! read the god damn mofo question!

^that is the last time h:
What is the conveyor doing if the plane is not moving? Nothing.
What is the conveyor doing if the plane is moving forward? Moving backwards.

So we can assume that the plane will still be able to move forward, no matter what the conveyor is doing. THUS, being able to gain speed and fly.
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