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From: My own level of hell
Originally Posted by DVPGSR
I would agree if government took something that was exclusive to Catholicism and either passed it as law or used it as a basis to pass a law than this would violate the establishment of religion clause in the Constitution.
However if there is no specific religion identified that is used to create or pass a law and it is just considered "religion" in general I do not have an issue with it as no specific religion is being used. If this happens to go against a smaller, minority religion than that happens to be the case. But this country is run by politicians elected by the majority and minority groups are constantly left on the side. There will always be opposition to any law but that does not mean that we cannot pass it because we do not have 100% approval.
However if there is no specific religion identified that is used to create or pass a law and it is just considered "religion" in general I do not have an issue with it as no specific religion is being used. If this happens to go against a smaller, minority religion than that happens to be the case. But this country is run by politicians elected by the majority and minority groups are constantly left on the side. There will always be opposition to any law but that does not mean that we cannot pass it because we do not have 100% approval.
Agreed if that happened then nothing would get done.
since most of these are heard by Supreme Court rulings, would it not be unfair to stack the Supreme Court with only a singular political or religious leaning?
I know it happens under any administration who has to enstate new nominees but at this time we are at the rise of 3 new SC justices which gives a lot of power in one direction and could be used to further a personal religious based agenda.
I know there is no way to give qualification to this argument so I throw it out there as more of a "what if" type argument.
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Originally Posted by RB26DETT
haha, just kidding, but millions of people have died for believing in what they believe in. I dont see that as weak.
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Originally Posted by mayonaise
i don't see that as strong, either. if you're referring to things like the crusades and other holy wars, don't you think it would have been a much better idea to put aside differences and compromise to find a peaceful solution? so much is wasted on these types of conflicts. what could these millions of people have contributed to the world in a positive way, instead of dying for what they believed in? could we be any further technologically or socially if the countless billions, trillions (or more) equivalent dollars, natural resources and time spent fighting throughout history were put towards better things? scholars commonly believe that the destruction of the library of alexandria set human civilization back centuries.
how about the countless people who were fed to tigers and burned alive in Roman times? they could've easily said that they dont believe in it.
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Originally Posted by Joe_Hard
So do you believe that your good at taking pictures because god gave you eyes and a finger to press the button or because you worked to get better.
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Originally Posted by Nightshade
I do not believe my personal religious beliefs are of that nature to say something like that. I do believe I was given a gift of sorts and that like anything else it still takes practice and patience to make those skills rise to a certain level. The will to make these skills better is completely of my own volition...however the initial gift was given to me in some manner.
you're a lot better at explaining things than me
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Originally Posted by RB26DETT
i'm ignorant and afraid of what? answer that for me.
where the fuck did you get that i believe that achievement is not a result of hard work. nothing worth getting in life is easy. there are people with great voices and yet they dont receive much recognition. making it big is as much 'luck' (this could be where God comes in) as it is talent.
there is no way in hell that i'd make an album that goes platinum no matter how hard i try. some people do have gifts. that doesnt mean that they dont need hard work to develop these gifts, but I sure as hell dont have NFL quality genes.
where the fuck did you get that i believe that achievement is not a result of hard work. nothing worth getting in life is easy. there are people with great voices and yet they dont receive much recognition. making it big is as much 'luck' (this could be where God comes in) as it is talent.
there is no way in hell that i'd make an album that goes platinum no matter how hard i try. some people do have gifts. that doesnt mean that they dont need hard work to develop these gifts, but I sure as hell dont have NFL quality genes.
You are afraid that after you die you will be rotting in some coffin 6 feet under so you practice religion because religion says that you will go to heaven if you do this and that and stay away from that and this. Religion is your way to hang on to life.
anyways to each her own beliefs I guess, you wanna believe in god, then go ahead, its not gonna change my life.
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Originally Posted by RB26DETT
the crusades were motivated by greed and power. religion was used as an excuse.
how about the countless people who were fed to tigers and burned alive in Roman times? they could've easily said that they dont believe in it.
how about the countless people who were fed to tigers and burned alive in Roman times? they could've easily said that they dont believe in it.
the crusades were not the only conflict over religious beliefs, or where people died for what they believed in. besides which, i'm plenty sure that a majority of the grunts believed they were doing good by invading the middle east and slaughtering muslims.
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Originally Posted by 98CoupeV6
...and back to the original topic, have you come up with any credible evidence yet that he actually said something like this or was this just another excuse to bash him?
I knew it would bug you to no end that I post this and get a laugh out of it, and I also knew that you would keep at it with the voracity of a pitbull to prove that you are always right in everything you say and I am always wrong.
I accept this fact and I bow to your vastly superior knowledge.
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Originally Posted by Nightshade
I do not believe my personal religious beliefs are of that nature to say something like that. I do believe I was given a gift of sorts and that like anything else it still takes practice and patience to make those skills rise to a certain level. The will to make these skills better is completely of my own volition...however the initial gift was given to me in some manner.